judge for yourself ............... Options

[halexzo]

another assumption about a site, BaggaBucks, not a member there either, but the same old tactics used by:

Seraph
On second thought, after looking...it sounds like a pyramid scheme. They are very vague about how you earn cash...and it sounds very much like the whole "Put $1 in this envelope, mail it back to this person, and mail out your stuff and they'll mail you $1..."

You know...those letters you get from "Phake Skam, Attorney at Law" swearing up and down that by mailing out letters you'll make millions? That's what this sounds like.

Whoever runs this site is going to make tons, because I really doubt word will get out there easily if it is a scam, and they have the PERFECT getaway car waiting on them. You have your site, they don't owe you anything else. BYE!

link

What gets me, that site been advertised at that sand pit, does she NOT trust Rob's judgement when he allowed the banner to be shown there?

That I could understand, as we all know Rob sells spots for advertising or anything else for the right price in a heart beat.

I do want to make sure everyone knows that I have NOTHING negative to say about 'BaggaBucks' or the PO itself, I do not belong to the site nor do I know the PO, I merely show the double standards that goes on and all the assumptions/accusations that are so easily thrown around at that circus.


another NEW member, the owner again who needed to register to defend those alligations made about the site:

webstars2k
New Member
I am the owner of Baggabucks.
It is very easy to see who owns what by going to networksolutions and do a whois instead of flying off the handle and posting whatever you feel like without any self education whatsoever - even worse you are not even a member because if you were, you'd see in the members area it says "A webstars2k domain, 9 1/2 years online" with my logo.
Now if you do not know that name either, go to that domain and self educate.
ALso, go to dictionary dot com, look up pyramid scheme first.
So quit recklessly smearing my domain here.
I do not own a porn site, dont know who alabma whatever is and I am a longterm advertiser on GPTboycott and I already own several well known sites that has paid out several tens of thousands of dollars (if not more) for nearly 10 years.

a long term advertiser at that circus but never registered there till now .

And who comes to the rescue because he dont want to lose another advertiser which brings him money, yup, Rob :

Rob
Although there is an incentive to refer paid members, there is also a free sign up option and a paid-to-click area. As I understand the site there is no compulsion to pay anything:

Besides receiving unlimited payments from others who buy from your page, we have a list of sponsors that you view. This costs you nothing, and it is optional. Everytime you view a website, you will get PAID. You can start getting paid in 3 minutes plus you also get to list 1 program that you belong to and be a sponsor too for free (optional) and get traffic to it!

link

Now that does make me wonder if he would have posted what he did if it was NOT a advertiser?

Think we all know the answer to that one, NO

Seraph
I wish you'd been a bit nicer about your response, but I'm glad to hear you respond about it. I just wonder though...what ever happened to site owners being professional and understanding the fears that have resulted from the CONSTANT fraud and money theft that's going on? It seems that anytime someone raises the slightest suspicion/complaint, they get bashed on and/or sneered at. Not saying this thread specifically...just saying it happens in general.

link

being scammed previously does not give anyone the right to ASSUME or ACCUSE any other PO and expect not to be replied to in the manner they spoke out.

Instead going around and accusing others or blabbing some unfounded assumption one should have solid proof before stating such things as this:

Seraph
it sounds like a pyramid scheme. They are very vague about how you earn cash...and it sounds very much like the whole "Put $1 in this envelope, mail it back to this person, and mail out your stuff and they'll mail you $1..."

Whoever runs this site is going to make tons, because I really doubt word will get out there easily if it is a scam, and they have the PERFECT getaway car waiting on them. You have your site, they don't owe you anything else. BYE!

webstars2k
I am nasty about it because I read stuff that was nasty do it deserves nasty back - and it is absurd (about getaway car) and I guess several years of history means jack on here - its a boycott site, not some defamation site. It makes it defamation, it is not an educated "opinion" based on ANY experience of it even - because you are not even members.
.......Rob the owner even posted in defense about it.
But still dont get it.
Listen here, I dont care if you join my site or not as it grows big without you like my others have andwill - the point here is not to be nice (falsely) and to get you to send me 2 bucks (not even that much...) its just unfair.
I just paid all requests after 2 weeks of open not 30 days...60 days or a year later and alot of members are making money.

link

I do not blame the PO of that site one bit for replying the way she did, she had every reason and right to do just that.

Seraph
I also just wish you'd explain it instead of being all rude. From what it seems like fromt he outside, it seems like a scam.

And several years of history does mean nothing to me if I don't know you from anyone. I've heard that before (disturbingly), and after so many times of being scammed...I just want to have my trust proven first. I doubt first, then trust. It's saved me quite a few times...

link

Well gee, guess she wants a notarized letter to show proof the PO's 'honesty' and some sort of deposit before joining any site in case it does not work out?

This is the world wide web, not wall street.Accusing or assuming (about a site) any PO will not give one a guarantee nor should it be allowed without having 100% proof.

Looking at some PDF file that 'someone' send does not proof anything, only what one wants to 'assume'or make out of it.

Nothing wrong with having doubts,most of us do, but to make something out of what is not there and possible cause a honest site/PO to miss out on members, or members on a honest site,is just plain wrong.



BEWARE of GPTBoycott ,they have NO CREDIBILITY, NO AUTHORITY & most importantly, NO LICENSE to do what they doing and BEWARE of them if you value your PRIVACY!!!!!

[milliem2]

I just noticed that on a couple of sites i have been to lately GPTBC has been advertising trying to get new members. Some sites i did not think i would see them on but i explained to the wb why i will be leaving their site so we will see what happens now. Just be careful when you join a site and see who else belongs to that site. Have a good day/night.

[halexzo]

I just noticed that on a couple of sites i have been to lately GPTBC has been advertising trying to get new members. Some sites i did not think i would see them on but i explained to the wb why i will be leaving their site so we will see what happens now. Just be careful when you join a site and see who else belongs to that site. Have a good day/night.

Exactly milliem2,beware if you join a site that supports that circus, I for one refuse to sign up at any site that has the banner of that sand pit displayed as I'am very suspicious if that is the case.

I will NOT support a site that thinks they have to kiss b... with the players of that snake pit, period.

ETA: the following is just a small example of what is allowed to go on at that 3 ring circus:

Seraph
Re: Cashcrate shouldn't even be on the watch list

They've had issues in the past with booting people off for odd reasons...no offense. On top of that, the owner has been in...legal...troubles. I forget all the charges, but it was like conspiracy for grand theft, and intimidating/harassing a court witness.

That right there is defamation of character and none of the admin or or mods had anything to say there or remove those false alligations, AGAIN they allowed the bashing and accusing to go on and just to get more traffic in there.


And those are the type of people that PO's like to be associated with I be running as fast as I can in the other direction and away from that snake pit and it's players.

Please, like milliem said, make sure you check out the site you like like to join and make sure that circus is not associated with in ANY way.And please make sure that you be very, very careful with your private Info, as some at that sand pit WILL use if they are out to get you and can get traffic with it.

And they will attack, bash,insult, lie , post private info etc..... about anyone who is there to disagree with them., whether that Info is true or false.

CashCrate Joe
How unfortunate for me that someone who committed a crime in Nevada happens to have my name! Please, go Google Joe Coleman and see how many results you'll find. I can tell you roughly what you'll see: one famous (relatively crazy) painter, TWO Major League Baseball pitchers, and an actor.
And those are just the famous ones. Go search for Joe Coleman and Nevada and you'll find there are a bunch of us in the state. For what it's worth, this record dates back to 2001, when I wasn't even living in Nevada. At that point I was still happily studying Philosophy at the University of Idaho, only to move to Nevada a few years later. If anyone really wanted to verify this, they could do so relatively easily.
I'm usually VERY understanding of people's opinions about CashCrate and our business, but this is personal and absolutely untrue. Please, from now on, do a little more research before you defame someone's name in public.

This post has been edited by halexzo: Oct 5 2008, 01:00 PM

[Donna]

You are right, hale.

You know, the more Seraph posts the less I think she comprehends what's she's reading.
And, yet, she's such a wanna-be expert on evaluating sites that she doesn't realize the harm she does when she exploits her own misconceptions of sites in her posts.

It's posts like hers that "draws" defensive actions from site owners - and, of course, brings more traffic for Rob. (And, of course, "new" members Rob can claim as "active.)

I guess Rob stepped in to defend the site this time because he didn't want to lose the advertising income he gets from the owner of Baggabucks.

At this rate, who will even believe what the wanna-be's say, anymore.

That's all GPTB is anymore: wanna-be experts and greed for money.

All I can say is Cudos to webstars2k.



And, yes, just like milliem2 and hale, I, too, hesitate to join ANY site that affiliates with or advertises GPTB on their sites.

[yokoda]

Yes While Seraph started a rumor again and her sneaky assumes about the owner of Bagga Bucks HIM having a pornosite and then changed her bashing into a piramide scheme
the owner turned out to be a woman for long time is bussines and even an advertiser at the circus.

Although Rob stepped in with some positive stuff Seraph stayed with what she said even now she realise the porno site has nothing to do with baggy bucks.
It is not the descusion about that site that makes me sick but the lame behavior showed again
She started again with her attitude and then tells Marianne to be nicer in her responce. Who the H* she think she is?? I wonder

Boygot unmasked as a deformation site insteed of a opinion based on experience or what ever the old old tactic they are using will maybe not work for long anymore??? I realy hope more and more will look true the veils of smoke they use to cover up their crapp

But all seraph responce is about is as childish complain that Marianne is rude LMAO She make up her behavior as being scammed so many times and said she wants her trust proven in the first place GEEEEE She is not even a member there

You sould think a apoligize is the right thing to do. But NO NO NOT at the circus
THe SHOW IS JUST BEGON

and there we have Belle again with some old cows out of the ditch trying to cover up her buddy Seraph
aslo NOT a member there. NEVER ASKED yourself why they acting up like this??

and MERLIN SHOULD NOT BE MERLIN IF HE WAS NOT AT THE SHOW AGAIN
MISTER KNOW IT ALL

HIS ROLE in the came is
DRAG BGPM
in every bashing and sickmaking discusion over there without any reason at all
and HE DID NOT DISAPPOINTED me

I know our nameless wonders at the BGforum are climbing all over this and the other posts about it but who cares!! As always....JMO....Merlin.....

For this action again you deserves the GOLDEN PINEAPPLE

And Ms Slimy Bellestraker scored her BROWN POINTS again with her
"I do not belong to this site or know anything about it..BUT blah,blah." attitude

It is nothing new : they trying the old tactics over and over again
ALL for the money and money for all

but he who knows : this wm stands up for her bussines ( like we do) and she is not afraid of the filth mouths over there so I am watching the show and hope they will show even better their colours. More and more will be aware of that Boygot realy is.
And maybe even Rob will be pissed when he will lose an advertiser I wonder how he will solve this little problem? Maybe more begging mails in my inbox later . Will see and post about that

yokoda

This post has been edited by yokoda: Oct 6 2008, 11:11 AM

[halexzo]

Chillian
I would be interested to know what the complaints were in the first place that got Cashcrate placed upon the Watchlist. Not word for word, or who sent them in, but in general. Is there a way that we can see those

link

Yes, we all like to see the complaints of any site that is/was considered for the watchlist to begin with.

Thats the problem, all is done behind the scenes, by the so called 'judge/jurror and executioners' without letting anyone know what the complaints actually consisted of.

Pietro
It is not a practice of this forum to share complaints with anyone other than the owner of the program in question.

link

Chillian
So how does it work? If can only share the complaints with the owner of the program in question, how can you be sure that they have been resolved to any degree of satisfaction to warrent their removal from the watchlist, besides the site owners word?

That is the question of the year how does all work at that circus?

Pietro
when possible those who made the complaints are also contacted and asked if their complaint is still valid or if it has been resolved.

When possible? Why should it not be? The complainant has to give a email addy, so all involved should be notified. Or can they give a FALSE addy also? Like they allowed to use a FALSE name to submit a complaint?

all complaints should be made puplic so that the 'players' at that circus have no reason to lie, bash, insult attack and make some outragious assumptions as they do now to the point where those are slander and defamations.

merlin
I know our nameless wonders at the BGforum are climbing all over this and the other posts about it but who cares!! As always....JMO....Merlin.....

Awwww merlin, I see you have not forgotten us yet

Now who started it up again, no suprise

Unlike you and a few other regular 'players' at that circus, we do NOT accuse PO's if we do not belong to the site (s) or had actual experience with.

And NO, I have NOTHING negative to say about' BaggaBucks' or it's PO, I 'm not a member there nor do I know the PO.

Since the PO in this case, has been a long time advertiser at that 3 ring circus, Rob wants to be sure he does not lose her so he jumped in to defend her:

Rob
Although there is an incentive to refer paid members, there is also a free sign up option and a paid-to-click area. As I understand the site there is no compulsion to pay anything:

Besides receiving unlimited payments from others who buy from your page, we have a list of sponsors that you view. This costs you nothing, and it is optional. Everytime you view a website, you will get PAID. You can start getting paid in 3 minutes plus you also get to list 1 program that you belong to and be a sponsor too for free (optional) and get traffic to it!

Besides great wizzard, that ad been displayed at the circus for some time now, why have none of you ever questioned it before if you think it is a pyramid sheme?

Eh, Rob sells anything for the right price, so guess you kept quiet about it till you couldn't help yourself again to bring 'us' (BGPM Forum) in to a thread which is about another site, AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just because we showed the accusations that seraph posted that the the PO had to register to defend herself:

Seraph
On second thought, after looking...it sounds like a pyramid scheme. They are very vague about how you earn cash...and it sounds very much like the whole "Put $1 in this envelope, mail it back to this person, and mail out your stuff and they'll mail you $1..."
You know...those letters you get from "Phake Skam, Attorney at Law" swearing up and down that by mailing out letters you'll make millions? That's what this sounds like.
Whoever runs this site is going to make tons, because I really doubt word will get out there easily if it is a scam, and they have the PERFECT getaway car waiting on them. You have your site, they don't owe you anything else. BYE!

The PO of the site:

webstars2k
New Member
I am the owner of Baggabucks.
It is very easy to see who owns what by going to networksolutions and do a whois instead of flying off the handle and posting whatever you feel like without any self education whatsoever - even worse you are not even a member because if you were, you'd see in the members area it says "A webstars2k domain, 9 1/2 years online" with my logo.Now if you do not know that name either, go to that domain and self educate.
ALso, go to dictionary dot com, look up pyramid scheme first.
So quit recklessly smearing my domain here.
I do not own a porn site, dont know who alabma whatever is and I am a longterm advertiser on GPTboycott and I already own several well known sites that has paid out several tens of thousands of dollars (if not more) for nearly 10 years.

belle
I find it particularly slimy when people will post they think we are so terrible for warning others but at the same time attempt to cover their tushes by adding "I do not belong to this site or know anything about it..BUT blah,blah."

NO belle, what was done was not a warning, it was nothing else but a accusation and assumption that is why the PO had to reply to Seraph they way she did, same manner as you and some other players talk about others. I say if 'those' can't take the heat, 'they'should get out the kitchen but do not expect others to just sit back and take slander, defamation, lies, accusations , insults, etc...... and not reply.

Told you a long time ago we would watch that circus and we WILL let others know how that sand pit works.

webstars2k
I am nasty about it because I read stuff that was nasty do it deserves nasty back - and it is absurd (about getaway car) and I guess several years of history means jack on here - its a boycott site, not some defamation site. It makes it defamation, it is not an educated "opinion" based on ANY experience of it even - because you are not even members........Rob the owner even posted in defense about it.
But still dont get it.
Listen here, I dont care if you join my site or not as it grows big without you like my others have andwill - the point here is not to be nice (falsely) and to get you to send me 2 bucks (not even that much...) its just unfair.
I just paid all requests after 2 weeks of open not 30 days...60 days or a year later and alot of members are making money.

belle
I wonder why it would bother anyone so much to have others check sites out and offer their best advice....Could it be because they are afraid of the good things happening here....They certainly seem upset that they are no longer allowed to send their buddies over to trample every thread where they see anything constructive being discussed.

best advice?You have got to be kidding you call slander, defamation, lies, assumptions etc....best advice?


Upset over what? we see enough what is going on and from just what is allowed to be seen, everyone can see how low the 'players' will go and how pathetic the attempts actually are to attack sites/PO's of which they are NOT even members of. Way to go belle, keep digging that hole deeper, we all know why those'secret' threads are there, to slander, defame, bash, insult, accuse others even more then from what we do see.

belle
Sheesh girls........Have a nice cup of hot tea then kick back and enjoy life...you're all sounding a tad forced these days.........

Sheeeeesh players...........have a glass of kool aid sit back and enjoy life....... your're all sounding a tad confused this days


ETA: Congrats belle on becoming a 'Top Contributor' and merlin , eh you just have 204 more posts to go before getting that infamous title or guess you could sign up for some of the offers or give Rob a donation, might be a bit quicker

BEWARE of GPTBoycott ,they have NO CREDIBILITY, NO AUTHORITY & most importantly, NO LICENSE to do what they doing and BEWARE of them if you value your PRIVACY!!!!!

This post has been edited by halexzo: Oct 6 2008, 01:52 PM

[Donna]

...They certainly seem upset that they are no longer allowed to send their buddies over to trample every thread where they see anything constructive being discussed....

Perhaps Ms. BS would care to PROVE that? I mean, could it NOT be that some of us CHOOSE not to "support" GPTB by posting over there? I mean, I don't even like going over there to "view" the trash, but, consider it a neccessary evil just to point out the REAL purpose of GPTB - greed and exploitation to gain money and (de)fame.

After all, the only "good things happening" over there are that people are on to what GPTB stands for and fighting back.

And, the only "good things happening" are that people like us are doing what we do - spreading the word and fighting against the FRAUD that GPTB is!

Seraph, maybe you should invest in a comprehension reading course and take a second look at what YOU posted. Maybe you will SEE for yourself how "nasty" YOUR post was about the owner of Baggabucks!

Who posted "nasty" first? You! You have NO right to go defaming a program you know NOTHING about! Nor do you have the right to DEFAME a name picked out of the many "cases" with the SAME NAME and connect it with a site owner who happens to have that name!

All I see y'all doing is grasping at straws with loose ends to stay afloat, hoping no one will see the truth. Hoping that people like spygrrl007 will just believe everything you say:

Wow... well thank you... I'm glad I asked....

I said it before and I say it again. You are nothing but wanna-be experts on issues you know NOTHING about!

Eh, what else can one expect when there's a program with a fake purpose and fake experts; boycotts that have no substance and unsubstantiated (maybe even invisible) complaints!

Keep up the good work on dragging GPTB even deeper in the mire. The day will come when y'all drown in your own smutt.

[halexzo]

merlin
Well,I called it. I just revisited the "half-visible" forum and sure enough the 3 unwise people who comprise the majority of post over there are screaming their usual insults and venom.

link

trash from you as usual, nothing new, old and boring but sure seems that it bothers you a LOT that the forum here is just "half-visible"

And hey, if you don't like it, simply don't read it or comment on it

If anyone is spewing insults and venom it is from the 'regular players' at that sand pit.

Read 'your' circus of a forum you belong to and you will find plenty of that there, I promise

merlin
Yes, I brought you into this thread,not because Rob needs the traffic,not because of the advertising,cuz you were over there with your usual copy-paste criticism of what we do here. YAWN!! it's old and useless,I did it,visited your stupid forum cuz I was bored this weekend and wanted to see if anything had changed.

You can say that about the traffic/advertising until the cows come home, it will not change the facts and we do know better.

Of course we c/p the venom, attacks, insults,lies, accusations etc.... from your circus to here to show everyone who reads how exactly it all works there and just what all is allowed in the name of traffic/money.

Told you I will keep an eye on that circus and make sure others will see it too

I know merlin,you just wanted to post something, so you spew any type of c...

Or are you trying to get closer to those 1000 posts you need to receive that infamous title so you can see what is going on at that 'secret' forum there?

Well merlin, now you have only 203 to go, so be happy, you are getting closer

merlin
Why don't you conceal the whole forum so no one but members can see it.

Why don't you stop coming here ? much simpler, wouldn't you say?

merlin
Could it be cuz your true numbers are show by the posts or lack thereof I should say.

well lets have a look at that 3 ring circus activity, shall we

since 8-12-08 the activity level at that 3 ring circus dropped from 1,002 to 604, that is 398 members just don't give a hoot anymore and seen the truth about what is going on there, lies, accusations, assumptions, attacks, insults, posting private info and false alligations and on and on it goes............

The only reason it picked up a little in the last few days is because of those couple of attack/bashing threads that were started and PO's and members of those sites registered to defend themself and/or the site.

that is exactly what that circus does if it gets to slow, they start a new bashing thread, now how pathetic is that

I rather have less posts at any forum, then to resort to what is done at that sand pit.

merlin
Hope your earning your "living-money" from your boss well. Just wish you human beings would get the guts to come over and really defend your actions instead of cowering under the guise of a "half-hidden" forum.

Now here is the old merlin back who just want's to throw a few insults/accusations around and acts like he knows what he is saying.

Of course we all know here that you have absolutely NO clue what you talking about and frankly, you not worth the effort to even try to explain it to.

But believe me, nobody here is cowering under any guise

merlin
My opinion of this program and others stands,it's my opinion if you don't like it don't read it or comment on it. AS always....JMO....Merlin....

And who really cares about your opinion? A few who just have not figured you out yet? All I can say to that, hope they wake up soon and see you for what you are, a misserable person who has nothing better to do but to insult others, lie, bash and attack, report many honest people just because and without having the facts and on and on it goes......

Only reason you were mentioned is because you once again talked about us here .

You couldn't wait to involve us again even tho nobody had mentioned your or belle's name in some time, both of you had to start it up again and drag us in to a thread which had nothing to do with BG (forum) way to go, show your true colors once again.

Countdown merlin, 203

BEWARE of GPTBoycott ,they have NO CREDIBILITY, NO AUTHORITY & most importantly, NO LICENSE to do what they doing and BEWARE of them if you value your PRIVACY!!!!!

[Donna]

Seems to be a pattern here, lol.

Seraph - a well known accusor starts defaming a PO she doesn't even know against a site she has no knowledge about.

The owner of the site being discussed has to join so they can defend their integrity in the same fashion (you know - tit for tat).

And, now I see the usual - you know - the gang coming in and derailing the topic to make jabs at us.

I mean, what have WE got to do with the topic over there?

All WE are doing over here is pointing out, again and again, what we SEE them doing. Isn't that OUR prerogative? And, the thing of it is, WE are staying WITHIN the TOPIC of OUR thread!

Shouldn't THEY stay on topic over there, too? I mean, isn't the "TOPIC" of discussion of THAT thread about Baggabucks? Geesh, I SWEAR that gang's got a reading (thinking) comprehension problem over there.

Merlin, there's no screaming over here, nor is there any venom. That's all in that fragile little mind of yours. And if you are bored, why derail a thread to take jabs at us? It really doesn't look "good" for GPTBoycotters to do that, you know. All it does is prove to your viewers just what y'all are about - which "I find .. particularly slimy." (to use BS's own words, lol)

Po wittle merlin can't peek at the whole forum over here. (Pity Party)

Are you green with envy and jealousy, merlin? Is that why you use that "slimy" green smiley? Quite befitting if I say so myself.

[yokoda]

Yep Hale Belle is already a topcontributor , she bought herself into the secret forum over there
More to hide, insteed of working to a more transparant way to boygot REAL SCAM

a smoke curtain? to hide the lies, asumations with proof,

Merlin is NOT a topcontributor , yet . He did not support ROB with money so far and posting crap to get his GOLDEN TITLE by 1000 posts Good work Merlin , keep going and you will be Top contributor soon enough

I wonder why he gets upset by our forum?? There is no need to come here as we only post when HE brings up the good name of BGPAYMAIL. Over and over again he starts to bring us up in every treat he can. derailing or not, it doesn't matter as there is never a moderator around to talk him into some sence. If he should stop bringing up BGPM himself ......
besides : There are so many usefull things to do when you got bored. I can name you a few If you like. Take a chill-pill and go for fresh air.
being bored is a lame excuse Merlin. I don't buy that

And why being upset by part of the forum protected??? you have a secret forum at boygot , although you can't go in there since you are not aloud there. A bit frustated Merlin ???? Why don't you go complain to Rob about the secret forum if you don't like that? after all it is a public forum

Yokoda

[halexzo]

The following post (s) at that 3 ring circus speaks for itself and was addressed to Seraph:

ybond

Originally Posted by kingofgpt
btw...all the arguing you do is just hurting yourself....haha look at the Alexa's on your two sites...they're all dropping...looks like you need to step your game up and stop worrying about other people

Also, look at the Alexa of the sites that Seraph promotes..
I wonder if Seraph ever thinks that it is associated with the way "she", (thought she was a he, till She straightened that out) acts?
I read here a bit, and get sick of seeing Seraph honestly. I could care less if I am banned, besides she is kissing someones rear here in order to continue with her bad mouthing others..Its like calling the kettle black, she is allowed but no one else is..
Seraphs site sucks, Seraphs attitude sucks, and it feels good to say it. Alexa does not lie! Alexa does not care who you are, its all about traffic, and Seraph doesn't get that, why?
Because of comments such as those above.

link

and guess what, here comes Pietro with his warning after the post above was made, not before, guess ybond has seen the light about how that circus works, just like so many others have seen it.

Of course Pietro says 'ALL' but.............., read the whole thread and judge for yourself

Pietro
Consider this an informal warning. I hereby request that the people, ALL of the people posting in this topic refrain from personal attacks, insults and backseat moderating and bring the topic back to that which it was intended. If you (collective you) don't the topic will be closed and all participants formally warned.

link


BEWARE of GPTBoycott ,they have NO CREDIBILITY, NO AUTHORITY & most importantly, NO LICENSE to do what they doing and BEWARE of them if you value your PRIVACY!!!!!

[yokoda]

I have thought about this for several hours and origionally going to ignore the email I received on their latest responses/attacks/grade school mentality of attacking opinions and people here at this forum and my visiting there to verify what was in the email.

Why should someone send you emails about that?? The boygot treat is open for all.
and if you got so upset you have to open a new treat about us; why reading those emails in the first place??
You can simple delete them as spam

I opened this thread new as again they made their assanine assumption that mentioning them in another thread(baggamails),that I was dragging them in for any number of purposes ranging from Rob needing traffic,my wanting to do 1000 posts to join the "mystery forum" etc.,etc.,etc.. .

that is exact what happend, why on Earth you should open a new tread if nothing new here is going on? Why paying attention to un intelligent people like us?? why?? because deep in your heart you know we are telling the true.

For your information,I was bored as I say on Sunday and was doing computer cleaning and considered deleting the link and password I have to your forum. I visited out of boredom and somewhat of a curiosity to see if you had posted any of your diatribes lately and not to my surprise found you had basically not stopped with your grade school mentality attacks of this forum and its members. Unlike your forum where post were deleted,people harassed for not agreeing with your opinion. There is the laugh you wouldn't know an opinion if it popped up and kissed ya where you sit.

lol I am totaly not in need of your information. Lying is all what you did last year
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I am getting so bored hearing this over and over again.

This forum is basically a free opinion forum where people tell of problems they are having with programs and others suggest solutions or comments on the same types of problems they are having with that program. This is a forum of opinions,you have a choice to read them or not read them,agree with them or disagree with them and to comment or not comment on them.

Nope Merlin you are very wrong about that
Lying, assumations, posting personal information, deframing sites, reporting to IR and PP, slander, crap and trash that is all what I found there. the only time I posted there I got my mouth shut up by you.
It is not a free opinion forum at all. Under the mask of being the so called protector of PTR industry lies a owner who is only interested in MONEY MONEY MONEY. Begging for trafic and begging for donations.

I am free to read there and to disagree with the way you handle things. I refuse to comment there as my mouth would been shut faster as I can speak. We opened here a treat to avoid that and this treat is open for anyone to read and to responce to

Merlin you are boring, unintelligent and useless yourself ( using your own words) I don't care why you are here.
your face will turn green every time you see the truth staring here at you.
You are not used that people backtalk hummm

It's because of your insecurity and lack of intelligent constuctive criticism of members of this forum or the forum itself. Nothing more nothing less. Your crude grade school remarks of thorny pineapple award or comments on my using a green smiley face are just that crude,rude and un-intelligent remarks with intent to incite and inflame others and me.

If you starts trowing a ball you can wait for his return You started it yourself and now playing the poor guy again
You again did brought in the name of bgpaymail and his members. For what goal one may ask??
For the money and the trafic clear and simple. bgpaymail was always good for activity on that almost burried site
Now all trafic dried up, drag in BGpayMail as you know you can't shut us up. WHy not? because we proof over and over again what boygot is about. and more and more member are aware.

In closing as to the "mystery forum" your so concerned about and think I am making post for to be eligible to join,let me say this....I really don't care for that type of forum,have never supported that type of forum,but should I choose to do that is MY decision and no one else.

well for your information Merlin
that type of forum IS Boygot. It is part of your stragegy to bann scam sites. It is part of the dark mysterious boygot procedure, nobody knows exact how it works. Transparatie is what we are asking for a whole lot of time now, but no questions are answerd by Rob. All he does is watching. laching and filling his pockets. He may buy a new program to updat your forum further, smooter ect. But what about your ideals? the goals you fight for? They are gone for already long time now. Pitty

If you choose to join or not is indeed your own decision, as soon you get the title I will see your TOPSUPPORTER AWARD next to your name and when that happens you got your vote in the boygot procedure and the entree ticket to the secret forum
Does that makes me laugh??? nope nope nope
It will be a dark day when that happens

This post has been edited by yokoda: Oct 8 2008, 02:43 PM

[halexzo]

merlin
I have thought about this for several hours and origionally going to ignore the email I received on their latest responses/attacks/grade school mentality of attacking opinions and people here at this forum and my visiting there to verify what was in the email. I opened this thread new as again they made their assanine assumption that mentioning them in another thread(baggamails),that I was dragging them in for any number of purposes ranging from Rob needing traffic,my wanting to do 1000 posts to join the "mystery forum" etc.,etc.,etc..

link

Merlin,we all know how easily you change your mind, about anything, whether it is telling that circus to shuff it and you out or whether you being called upon a lie you made about me, you sway with the wind and one never knows which direction so NO, I'm not suprised at all that you started a new thread about BGPM AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

merlin
I agree also, I will say nothing more about them.

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merlin 07-14-2007
My last official opinion on this forum will be that BB and its owner or owners belong back on the boycott list.
Basically what I am saying is seeings so many have so much problem with my posting of the pms is that you can take my membership to this forum,fold it into a very sharp point and stick it where the sun don't shine as the saying goes. As always......Merlin.

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You can say what you like about that snake pit not needing traffic till the cows come home with bells on, we KNOW better and so do many others, looks even you thought so:

merlin
I am slowly coming to the conclusion that maybe the bgpaymail people,might not be too far wrong in their conclusion that this forum has developed into a traffic forum for google adsense and nothing else matters

LINK

The assumptions/accusations are being made by you and a few others at that circus and that is a fact and proven over and over again.

merlin
For your information,I was bored as I say on Sunday and was doing computer cleaning and considered deleting the link and password I have to your forum. I visited out of boredom and somewhat of a curiosity to see if you had posted any of your diatribes lately and not to my surprise found you had basically not stopped with your grade school mentality attacks of this forum and its members.

What a idiotic post,if you bored, go take a nature walk and clear your confused mind, you did not have to come visit here,

We will not stop to expose those accusations and lies that go on at the sand pit, we showing proof, not assuming like so many do over there.

Call it what you like, the FACTS are there

merlin
Unlike your forum where post were deleted,people harassed for not agreeing with your opinion. There is the laugh you wouldn't know an opinion if it popped up and kissed ya where you sit.

what a load of c....

What bothers you is that we show facts,posted by you and some others there, not wildly assumptions that she/he seen or heard somewhere and added the rest making it defamation and slander in many cases and PO's have to register just to defend such alligations.

You call that opinions? Lying and accusing others? You would NOT know what an opinion is if it bit you right where it hurts.

merlin
This forum is basically a free opinion forum where people tell of problems they are having with programs and others suggest solutions or comments on the same types of problems they are having with that program. This is a forum of opinions,you have a choice to read them or not read them,agree with them or disagree with them and to comment or not comment on them.

there you go again, babbling away garbage.most people there do NOT belong to the sites they talking about, take a good look around at that snake pit and you see that most talk by hearing something somebody said and then a few of you addoil to the fire and voila, here we have the traffic thta is so badly needed there.

Do NOT give me that c... about problems you yourself have with other programs, as you do NOT belong to most of them, so you and a few others just ASSUME and ACCUSE, just look at that BB thread, a very good example.

merlin
We also comprise a list,two list actually which you know are the boycott list and the watch list. You know their purpose and you can't live with it that your so called precious program Bgpaymail got put on that list.

Yea, we know all about those 2 infamous lists, no complaints are posted for the watch list itself and flawed procedures are used to boycott any site.

Complaints, and I mean any, can NOT be verified 100% as the WM is not given the actual complaint with the username of the accuser and on top of it, one can submit the complaint using a FALSE NAME.

merlin merlin, who cares what site is on that list? those who kiss b.... with that circus so they do not get attacked? Those who get their kicks out of attacking others and insulting them?

Sure not us , as that list is as crooked as can be and the so called 'team' of judge/jurrors/executioners who decide which site be on those lists, well, you know my opinion about them

The simple fact remains:

watch/boycott procedures ARE flawed

complaints CAN be filed by anyone,member or NON member alike

complaints CAN be filed using a FALSE name

complaints CAN NOT be verified

complainants DO NOT have to submit actual username used on accused site

Numbers needed to put a site on watch/boyccott list ARE NOT justified for ALL Sites.

merlin
So now your huffing and puffing and gonna hold your breath till you turn blue with your child like grade school antics of copy paste and criticise,attack and make fun of what we do here. Your antics are boring,un-intelligent and useless. If you don't like what we do or how it is done then help invent a better way,turn your half blind forum into something useful than dribble and make something out of it.

No again merlin, when will you get it in your head that what we do is show how crooked that circus works,simple so eat your heart out, we will continue to expose that sand pit for what it is, nothing you can do about

What you just did and open a new thread about BG AGAIN, that is grade school antics boring,un-intelligent and useless as we all know here how hard you trying to find something bad about BG and just can't so you resort to kindergaten games and post some c.... that makes no sense any which way you look at it.

That circus has been told many times what should and should not be done,over 7+ years and no improvement in those flawed procedures to boycott sites, that alone should tell you something.

that really bothers you that half the forum here is closed to you eh? Well, I say get over it

merlin
I am tired of hearing about your dribble,reading about it,I will make limited comments hopefully after this about it.

Is that supposed to be something new?In how many threads have you said the same thing? And yet here again, you opened yet another thread about BG.

Really bothers you BG is still here, does it not? Eat your heart out merlin, it will be here and for a long time to come

Besides, delete the link to here, keep your nose nose out of this forum and dont read your 'SUPPOSEDLY' updates you receive about this forum, simple, wouldn't you say?

merlin
Mentioning you because you attacked two members of this forum and their opinion of Baggamails doesn't mean I am dragging you up for traffic,jollies,to log posts or anything.

NO merlin, I did not attack, unlike you, I c/p her post and the reply of the site owner to show she was lying., so let me refresh your mind:

Seraph
Re: Cashcrate shouldn't even be on the watch list

They've had issues in the past with booting people off for odd reasons...no offense. On top of that, the owner has been in...legal...troubles. I forget all the charges, but it was like conspiracy for grand theft, and intimidating/harassing a court witness.

BIG LIE, and she did NOT assumed,she said 'HAS BEEN', that is defamation and slander, just like the PO stated here:

CashCrate Joe
How unfortunate for me that someone who committed a crime in Nevada happens to have my name! Please, go Google Joe Coleman and see how many results you'll find. I can tell you roughly what you'll see: one famous (relatively crazy) painter, TWO Major League Baseball pitchers, and an actor.
And those are just the famous ones. Go search for Joe Coleman and Nevada and you'll find there are a bunch of us in the state. For what it's worth, this record dates back to 2001, when I wasn't even living in Nevada. At that point I was still happily studying Philosophy at the University of Idaho, only to move to Nevada a few years later. If anyone really wanted to verify this, they could do so relatively easily.
I'm usually VERY understanding of people's opinions about CashCrate and our business, but this is personal and absolutely untrue. Please, from now on, do a little more research before you defame someone's name in public.

and the other post:

Seraph
On second thought, after looking...it sounds like a pyramid scheme. They are very vague about how you earn cash...and it sounds very much like the whole "Put $1 in this envelope, mail it back to this person, and mail out your stuff and they'll mail you $1..."
You know...those letters you get from "Phake Skam, Attorney at Law" swearing up and down that by mailing out letters you'll make millions? That's what this sounds like.
Whoever runs this site is going to make tons, because I really doubt word will get out there easily if it is a scam, and they have the PERFECT getaway car waiting on them. You have your site, they don't owe you anything else. BYE!

and the PO's reply:

webstars2k
New Member
I am the owner of Baggabucks.
It is very easy to see who owns what by going to networksolutions and do a whois instead of flying off the handle and posting whatever you feel like without any self education whatsoever - even worse you are not even a member because if you were, you'd see in the members area it says "A webstars2k domain, 9 1/2 years online" with my logo.Now if you do not know that name either, go to that domain and self educate.ALso, go to dictionary dot com, look up pyramid scheme first.
So quit recklessly smearing my domain here.
I do not own a porn site, dont know who alabma whatever is and I am a longterm advertiser on GPTboycott and I already own several well known sites that has paid out several tens of thousands of dollars (if not more) for nearly 10 years.

webstars2k
I am nasty about it because I read stuff that was nasty do it deserves nasty back - and it is absurd (about getaway car) and I guess several years of history means jack on here - its a boycott site, not some defamation site. It makes it defamation, it is not an educated "opinion" based on ANY experience of it even - because you are not even members........

So merlin,you need to either learn how to read or keep your mouth shut because it is there in black and white and nothing was done about it either, as usual it was allowed to stay as is,the oh so famous:

Do as I say ,DONT DO what I DO should be the logo for that circus.


BEWARE of GPTBoycott ,they have NO CREDIBILITY, NO AUTHORITY & most importantly, NO LICENSE to do what they doing and BEWARE of them if you value your PRIVACY!!!!!

This post has been edited by halexzo: Oct 8 2008, 11:41 PM

[Donna]

Awwwwwwwww man, here we go again. Poor, delusional merlin can't stand being bored, so he's back trying to get our goat, lol.

What's wrong, merlin? No new programs to boycott or run to the ground?

Or is it that no one pays any mind anymore who you boycott and what you do in the process?

Guess others are learning that they CAN survive after boycotts and mud slinging, huh?

Word sure got around on what GPTBoycott REALLY is, huh?

Hey! I got an idea for you, merlin! Why don't you go play with one of your magic wands?

[halexzo]

merlin
It's because of your insecurity and lack of intelligent constuctive criticism of members of this forum or the forum itself. Nothing more nothing less. Your crude grade school remarks of thorny pineapple award or comments on my using a green smiley face are just that crude,rude and un-intelligent remarks with intent to incite and inflame others and me. It serves no further purpose. Please just grow up and act your ages and not the appearent mentality that you have projected.

No insecurity or lack of intelligence here but I can clearly see you have a problem with it, especially your lack of intelligence

May I remind you of the disgusting and vile posts you made?

merlin
just to shut you up on it

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merlin
Same old yada,yada from the stooges.

merlin
Now you can be rat droppings for all I care,

merlin
You want answers,talk to the hand,no talk to the finger and you know which one I am talking about! If Rob wants my resignation for this,he can have it. As always....JMO....Merlin

LINK

The most vulgar and disgusting post that merlin made so far

merlin
I would delete the post but the head stooge of the bgpaymail trio

LINK

merlin
we are not dictated to as Bills "skirts"

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Are you sure merlin?

merlin
note to DCWike at bgpaymail. Are you blind or do YOU need the UGLY BETTY GLASSES?

merlin
NO,YOU DIDN'T BOTHER TO THINK,THAT IS APPEARENTLY BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION. AS ALWAYS....JMO....MERLIN

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merlin
You and Bill should get married you would make a wonderful couple and living in the "outback" is right where you belong. As always....JMO....Merlin

LINK



Yeah merlin,Bill is my long lost husband and did found him again in the outback of australia , sitting on a sheeps back

merlin
or in Bills case a "skirt sitting on my lap". Asalways....JMO....Merlin

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merlin
Halexo,just to prove how much of an ....... your being

merlin
You can believe me or not,I don't give a rats droppings,what you think anymore.

LINK

merlin
Guys,guys and gals,you have to realize that Halexzo is now claiming she is only one of the "hired" stooges over there. Wonder which one,Curly,Larry or Moe.

merlin
She's just admitted that Bill is pulling the puppet strings on them.

LINK

another idiotic rant from you

merlin
Yakoda,your avatar of the beaver is very appropriate,it is only exceeded by your appearent lack of ability to read and comprehend the english language.

LINK

merlin
Sounds more like a "Mission Impossible" tape,but be careful those were know to self destruct in 60 seconds.

LINK

Donna, delusional is correct, merlin just does NOT get it that the more c.... he post like this and making more new threads about BG the more laughable that circus looks.

How can anyone take that snake pit serious ?

And merlin, if you still bored, why don't you work on the following for a while and try to do something worthwhile:

watch/boycott procedures ARE flawed

complaints CAN be filed by anyone,member or NON member alike

complaints CAN be filed using a FALSE name

complaints CAN NOT be verified

complainants DO NOT have to submit actual username used on accused site

Numbers needed to put a site on watch/boyccott list ARE NOT justified for ALL Sites.

merlin
Please just grow up and act your ages and not the appearent mentality that you have projected.

yes merlin, please DO grow up and act your age, the mentality you keep showing is that of a elementary student, if that much

merlin
In closing as to the "mystery forum" your so concerned about and think I am making post for to be eligible to join,let me say this....I really don't care for that type of forum,have never supported that type of forum,but should I choose to do that is MY decision and no one else.

197 posts to go


BEWARE of GPTBoycott ,they have NO CREDIBILITY, NO AUTHORITY & most importantly, NO LICENSE to do what they doing and BEWARE of them if you value your PRIVACY!!!!!

This post has been edited by halexzo: Oct 8 2008, 11:44 PM