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senga44
post Aug 14 2007, 05:59 AM
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I love BGPAYMAIL, Hate Liars, Stalkers, Mean and Vicious People

You Lie, You Stalk, You're Vicious, You're Mean, you TWIST OTHERS WORDS TO MAKE YOU LOOK CLEAN. You are a Chameleon trying to make others think you're something your NOT!

I just really wonder what is behind that lily white facade that you all try to show the PTR world.

You are so MISERABLE you want others to be the same, but we have refused to be dragged down to your level.

You may have gotten BGPayMail on the Watch List and the Boycott List, but THIS SITE IS NOT DEFEATED! BILL AND THE SITE ARE HERE TO STAY!

You knocked IT down on the ground but WE got up (dusted ourselves off) and are ready for another round! We are STILL Here, AS YOU CAN SEE!

YOU WILL NEVER BE No 1- Cause you don't know how to just LEAVE THE GOOD SITES ALONE that do pay and the members HAVE FUN!

For ALL THOSE PEOPLE YOU TRIED TO DECEIVE-THEY ARE NOT AS NAIVE AS YOU PERCEIVED!

They see what you are doing and it is not just to educate the members of the PTR world. People can and do make up their minds every day with out your input.
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post Aug 14 2007, 12:28 PM
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Here's a prime example of one of "their" responses to one of our own, terriba, who was just standing up for BGPM over there.

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In case you hadnt noticed..NO-ONE from here has posted since the 8th.

Strange isn't it that every time no one from here posts anything out pops someone from BG to get the thread moving.

Have a good one

Belle
Oh WOW! Five whole days since they last posted in the BGPaymail thread over there!

Well, in case THEY haven't noticed, until yesterday, NO ONE from here posted there since the third week of February, 2007 - 173 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And, LOOK what they DO IF someone posts in defence of BGPM!

And WHERE IS ROB when this crap happens? WHERE ARE THE MODERATORS with this kind of PUT DOWN?

NOWHERE!

You know, those people can go on yapping to each other from pages 43 to page 143, 1504 posts AFTER we stopped posting over there, bringing up the same old rhetoric, over and over again.

And, the VERY one that posted the above remark is one of the ones who was c/p and PUBLICIZING PRIVATE paid mails to MEMBERS only until her account was suspended.

Why didn't Robbie boy or one of his biassed moderators DO anything about THAT?

BGPM forum IS there for anyone to see, BUT, the mails are to MEMBERS ONLY, thus, no one BUT MEMBERS should SEE what is written in them. And COMMON COURTESY requires that such NOT be viewed or shared by any member with the PUBLIC in other forums!

Yes, BGPM has a few thousand of members, but, that doesn't mean that over 40,000 people, Rob so proudly claims to say that visit gptb forum every day, has any rights to SEE those emails you post and twist to suit your savvy.

If ANYONE wants to see the whimsical satire, LET THEM JOIN THE PROGRAM!

So, Robbie boy? When are you gonna to take control and ENFORCE THESE particular RULES you posted in your "FORUM RULES?:"

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For clarity, the term "netiquette" shall herein be defined as follows:


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The conventions of politeness recognized on discussion forums, such as avoidance of cross-posting to inappropriate forums ...



In summary, if you wish to become a member of this site, we welcome you and ask that you treat others as you would be treated, with respect and courtesy. Help us to maintain a sense of professionalism by exhibiting dignity and honesty within your posts.


Ahhhhhhhh, but, of course, THAT would "hinder" traffic to your site, huh?

What people won't do for profit. Disgusting.


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post Aug 14 2007, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(halexzo @ Aug 7 2007, 12:47 AM) *
Rob
The PayPal term you so often quote states that "all charities and non-profit organisations that utilise PayPal to accept donations are required to receive authorisation from PayPal before conducting such business". GPTBoycott has never held itself out to be a charitable or not-for-profit organisation, and so that term does not apply.

Here is the quote I had posted that PP has in their terms:

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PP AUP concerning receiving donations:
To ensure compliance with applicable laws, all charities and non-profit organisations that utilise PayPal to accept donations are required to receive authorisation from PayPal before conducting such business. PayPal requires proof of tax exempt status or registration with applicable country specific regulatory bodies and takes certain due diligence measures to assure the legitimacy of the organisation.
As he never really answered what boycott is 'actually' listed as, how would we know Rob accepting and asking for donations are legal under those terms? unsure.gif

quoting Rob
The income obtained through advertising at this site is not of concern to anybody posting at the BGPayMail forum

Well guess this statement says it all, ducking those questions about his adsense incomeblink.gif

I imagene he was worried that more and more may see through him and actually realize what the site is set up as, to make money of course.

quoting Rob
it would violate the Google AdSense Terms to disclose such earnings,


Yeah, he even tried that route tongue.gif but of course we called him at that one too:

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from the google terms:
Do not disclose confidential information about your account like the CTR, CPM and income derived via individual ad units or any other confidential information they may reveal to you. However, you may reveal the total money you make as per recent updates to the TOS.
So there Rob, you ARE allowed to disclose your earnings . smile.gif


Sites displaying Google ads may not include:


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Content regarding programs which compensate users for clicking on ads or offers, performing searches, surfing websites, or reading emails


There IS contents about sites as such described, is there NOT? All those discussions they having about "so called forced searches" ? Surfing? ect?

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Deceptive or manipulative content or construction to improve your site's search engine ranking, e.g., your site's PageRank
Well now, keep bringing up same old complaints over and over again, such as the so called protectors of ptr do, would that NOT be considered deceptive and manipulative?


quoting queenoftraffic
With regards to the adsense ads having them on the forum is not against adsense terms as far as I am aware, I have google adsense ads on a forum with no problems but if this forum were or has been advertised in a paid to read emails site or similar then yes it is breaking their terms.

And we DO know that boycott is being advertised in a paid to read emails site, so it seems tha Robby Boy is also breaking Googles terms

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FAQ ar boycott
Advertise for GPTBoycott.Com
If you have any spare advertising at a get-paid site to use up, why not send it over here? You'll be helping us to receive the complaints we need to boycott the scams, and you'll be helping others to avoid them. We provide sample e-mail advertisements, banner information and text links here for you to use - and we'll be really grateful!



QUOTE(halexzo @ Jul 12 2007, 06:58 PM) *
The following are FACTS posted by Rob himself, not accusations or lies.

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quoting robsharpe
I have site wide links available on a High Pagerank (PR6) domain related to detecting fraud online. The site is averaging 10,000 daily hits, most of which occur throughout the forums, but several thousand of these are viewing the articles throughout the site.
As of May 10, Google is showing 75,000 indexed pages (using Yahoo's domain: command). Many of these pages are extremely high content pages, of which all content is unique
The site also shows 100,000+ backlinks (using Yahoo's linkdomain: command).
Currently we have just a couple of link positions open at $100/month.
Please contact me if interested in more details
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75,000+ pages indexed.
$100/mo through non credit card funded PayPal.
Please contact me for details
Rob




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Hi there,
I've never sold directly from this board before, so I'll do my best to give all the information I can in this post.
Basically, on the page gptboycott.com/watch I would like to sell a maximum of two text links. I own the whole site, but am now focusing on building up this reference/comunity site's sub-pages. This site is PR5.
The homepage of the site, which I do not at this moment wish to sell further links on, gptboycott.com isPR6, and is either position #1 or #2 on Google for its three target search terms: "paid email", "paid surveys", and "paid to surf". The Watch List page which I would like to sell text links on is directly linked to from this page, as well as every site and forum page.
I am not certain at the rate I would like to sell these links at. I would like to receive a fair price, and will not undersell myself - if the offers are too low I simply will not sell, and that's fine
The site's been up since September 2000, as well, if that's of any use. Around 10,000 visitors daily.
Please PM me any offers you may make for either one or both text link spots. I would appreciate payment via PayPal, and for a minimum duration of 3 or 6 months, although I may be tempted by good offers for short-term links.
If anyone has any questions, feel free to PM me, or reply here.
Thanks, and nice to finally get involved in the posting here instead of lurking ,
Rob




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quoting robsharpe
Webmaster and member community @ GPTBoycott.Com,PR6:

www.gptboycott.com/advertise.php for more info/info request
Rob



answering to this post here:

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I'm looking for some good banner space.
If anyone has space available for a cube or banner type of spot, please post it here or PM if your looking to keep it private....
The ideal spot would be webmaster related. I would like to advertise on a busy technology or webmaster community
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Seems Rob also had another site a bit something like boycott just around the same time when the circus open up:


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Avoid Internet Scams!
by robsharpe - written on 23.02.01 part of post
As webmaster and owner of Cash Center, I will try to make this opinion as impartial as I can.
( To earn more referrals. When people signup through Cash Center, they earn money, but I earn money also. Rob



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Another Forum, more google ads?more selling links/spots? ect.........

But guess the site did not work out as he hoped for like a few others he had, but Iam sure he made Money of that one too.


And lookie here:

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robsharpe - written on 20.04.02
For starters, GetPaidForum is a very successful forum discussing issues in the get-paid world. Boasting over 1638 members, this could be argued (along with the GPTBoycott forum) to be the biggest and most popular forum on the Internet discussing this industry.
The two sites are intertwined closely, and they both promote each other
Well there you have it, GPF and gptB ARE going hand in hand, even from way back than.


Now Iam asking myself why Rob is so secretive about how much he makes from those adsense ads. Of course after reading the posts from others on how much they make I should not be suprised Rob being silent about that.


How much can people make with adsense? Here is an article by John Chow who listed the 8 biggest adsense earners.

Anywhere from $300,000 per month down to $10.000 per month, of course those are the biggest ones, but hey, who knows how much boycott makes?


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Rob DOES promote a site (cashinonmails) which does advertises Matrix :

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CashDevelopment.WS
has been established by an overall effort, supported by highly qualified Staff who are committed to making a prosperous world-wide business via the internet. These people have extensive experience working with Multi-Level Marketing and Network Marketing Programs
Right now across the world, CashDevelopment.WS is being hailed as one of the MOST PROFITABLE and lucrative matrix sites on the net.
You'll INSTANTLY earn $4.00 for every CashDevelopment.WS member you enroll. For example, if you refer 9 members, then you will earn 9 x $4.00 = $36.00 in Fast Start Bonuses!
PLUS You'll earn additional $0.90 Up to $75.00 (excluding your matrix commissions) every 14 days for introducing new members to us. You can refer as many people as you like and you will earn $0.90 to $75.00 PLUS matrix commissions for each person every 14 days.


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gptB is set up under false pretence, NOT to teach and educate, but to make Money by asking for donations and bringing traffic in to make money from those Adsense Ads, simple JMO


If Rob wants to make Money fine, but dont try to fool the people by making them believe he is all heart and wants to teach and educate,as that is the claim he makes with his site/forum.


This thread was about how much some members made on a certain weekend by adsense, back in May 2005

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I earnt the most I've ever earnt yesterday... nearly 3x usual amount
Seems Rob received a electronic funds transfer since at least april of 2005 for his adsense

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UK EFT Received as well



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And one does NOT get paid by google unless the amount reaches at least $100.


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I run a similar sized forum, and find that AdSense performs well for me, I have to say. However, I have started using some CPM programs to fill up unsold inventory and found that I can make a small amount using this method, as well.
Give some CPM stuff a try, and review after two weeks or so... if you're not making much at present, what do ya have to lose?
Rob
link


Not counting donations, money for sales of banners and tiltles he bestows upon those who give enough money.

Rob, are you still saying MONEY was NEVER the AIM blink.gif




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fight4justice
A word of "Warning" "beware" of joining GET PAID TO BOYCOTT THEY HAVE DOUBLE STANDARD THEY ADVERTISE PONZI, SCAMS & GET RICH SCHEMES THROUGH GOOGLE ADSENSE AND SITES THAT BREAK PP’S AUP ADVERTISED THROUGH ADMIN’S SIGNATURE - PO’s SHOULD BEWARE OF THE CIRCUS CALLED GET PAID TO BOYCOTT



This post has been edited by halexzo: Aug 14 2007, 11:14 PM

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post Mar 14 2008, 05:59 PM
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Just adding the links here also smile.gif







Another good Article about gptB biggrin.gif



and the newest biggrin.gif






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post Mar 17 2008, 03:43 AM
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BGPM is the best there is in PTR but that is just my opinion, anyway, for me, that's enough, I can make up my own mind, and through first hand experience, nobody can alter my opinion and I will always be a BGPMers, hehehe....because I love it!!! Yaiy!

GPT Boygot or whatever its name can yaaaap all it wants, FOR ME AND MANY SANE AND CLEVER PEOPLE HERE AND EVERY WHERE.... Long Live BGPM!


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post Mar 17 2008, 09:26 PM
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, GOOD to SEE you, doe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, YES, BGPM IS the BEST!!!!!

Let's hope it won't be long before GPTB crawls back under their rock, lol. No matter how often they come out from under there and yap all they can, they eventually lose traffic and hide again. smile.gif


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post Mar 18 2008, 03:35 AM
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BGPM is the best there is in PTR but that is just my opinion, anyway, for me, that's enough, I can make up my own mind, and through first hand experience, nobody can alter my opinion and I will always be a BGPMers, hehehe....because I love it!!! Yaiy!

GPT Boygot or whatever its name can yaaaap all it wants, FOR ME AND MANY SANE AND CLEVER PEOPLE HERE AND EVERY WHERE.... Long Live BGPM!


Since I have been silent for awhile, thought it was time to make sure everyone knew I was still alive and LOVED BGPPAYMAIL and Everyone that is here ! ! !

There is not many sites that are like this other than the ones I own(Lynn smile) any way Boycott has no clue what the hell they are talking about and this just keeps going on and on and on like a bad soap opera!

All that really belong here KNOW the TRUTH there is no need to keep explaining it rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 23 2008, 04:10 PM
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"Donate To GPTBoycott" blink.gif ohmy.gif

LINK

The newest addition to that circus, well redone to make it more clear to those who want to give Rob some money for bashing others, even a suggestion of how much to give if you want a title:


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GPTBoycott is operated and maintained out of the good-will of the staff who work on the site. The site receives no financial subsidy from any government, charity or outside organisation. The staff who work on the site also bear the burden of many costs, such as domain and hosting fees, as well as specialist programming fees and script payments.
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If it is out of the good-will then why ask for money?If you want to keep a site up such as that circus who uses flawed boycotting procedures and boycotts sites without being able to confirm any complaints being legit,and allows anyone to be bashed and attacked who do not agree with them, then I think 'they' should make sure they can pay out of their own pocket.

Rob is asking for donations to keep the site up , yet, when a PO tries to be honest to the members and ask for possible advertising purchases and/donation, even clicking some support links, they WILL be attacked, insulted, accused etc...... Yet they doing the same as Rob does, asking to help to keep the site afloat, but, that circus call's them 'scammers', well, that would make Rob one too, wouldn't it? rolleyes.gif

It is ok for that circus to ask for Money to keep the site going? To have the latest upgrades/scripts and whatever Rob want's to have but has to pay for it?Why not put his effort in redoing the procedures for boycotting? Seems to me his 'toy' (forum) is more important to have the latest gadgets etc..... then how a site owner is treaded , using those oh so flawed 'boycotting procedures to ruin some perfectly honest sites.

Almost 7years time has passed and nothing has changed there but the upgrading of the forum and the asking in more depth for donations.

Almost 7 years time to come up with some procedures that could be called legit, but no, Rob is not interested in that, after all, he had time enough to proof otherwise, don't you think?

That circus makes money of bidvertisers too, that is why the traffic is needed so much there, from sales of advertising and now of course the donation page which was revamped to make it more interesting to those who like to belong to the 'regular players' there.


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Rob
As such, we rely heavily upon donations from our visitors to survive. All the donations that we receive are used to finance new and existing projects around the GPTBoycott website, and to further the goal that GPTBoycott strives for: a fairer get-paid industry for all.


LINK

Hey and if you pay enough, you even get to have access to the 'NEW' and 'SECRET' Forum, where they can bash all the want now and accuse, accuse, accuse as much as they want.

LINK

Hm, thought it was a forum for all?Why the need to hide that particular forum? Just so they pay to be able to 'belong' to the 'IN- CROWD"?

Strange that a forum such as 'get PAID to boycott' other sites feels the need to have a 'SECRET' forum and hide their discussions huh.gif

LINK

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The Top Contributor Forum is a special forum which is visible only to certain special members of our Discussion Forum. The Top Contributor Forum exists for two main purposes:

To reward those members who have contributed heavily to the work GPTBoycott does,
To allow us to discuss new ideas and projects for the site with those members who know and understand GPTBoycott and what we are trying to achieve best.


The members who are able to access this Forum are called Top Contributors - to recognise the special contribution they have made to the GPTBoycott site. They have a special user title next to their name when posting in all of our forums to show that they have achieved this status.


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Rob
If you would like to donate a different amount, you may use the PayPal and Moneybookers buttons below to do so. If your donation exceeds $20, you may gain access to our secret Top Contributor Forum.


'secret Top Contributor Forum' laugh.gif laugh.gif what is that place? The FBI? rolleyes.gif Is Rob playing James Bond? ohmy.gif Or Sherlock Holmes and Watson? laugh.gif Well several of those tongue.gif Bet some can't wait to pay their 'dues' to enter that 'SECRET FORUM' wink.gif

Waiting for a so 'called' 'license' to be posted next laugh.gif laugh.gif

BEWARE of GPTBoycott ,they have NO CREDIBILITY, NO AUTHORITY & most importantly, NO LICENSE to do what they doing and BEWARE of them if you value your PRIVACY!!!!!





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post Sep 23 2008, 05:28 PM
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Today Rob exceed himself by updating the old donation page in less then an Hour
He did not bother with the trash his Staff ehum spew at the forum but when it come to MONEY he don´t need a kick in the B..

His priorities are clear. HE NEEDS MONEY

When trafic form the BGforum slowed down his milkcow cq source of income, he, once again , is in desperate need of an other way to get traffic.
First step was taken by the staff and BD begin to sprew her trash again with help of Merlin. Soon one by one the regular posters stepped in again, trying to back up their buddy´s
It was clear what the goal was. Trying to get back the FIGHT (WITH nothing more then OLD FACTs. )
It was inpossible to come up with new facts. As they come to search for comments and complaints, but yet they found nothing then praises and happy members at our forum.
So that was not helping to bring in money
No traffic means no money , simple as that.

Mission not accomplished Rob has to find other ways.
Donations and ads is for long time his other hobbyhorse as source of money. So nothing new here, but Rob just reshaped the donation page into a more slippery one.
and created a TOP SECRET CONTRIBUTION FORM for a very select elite group of paid skirts their words not mine

GPTBoycott is operated and maintained out of the good-will of the staff who work on the site. The site receives no financial subsidy from any government, charity or outside organisation. ) riding a high horse here eummm

The staff who work on the site also bear the burden of many costs, such as domain and hosting fees, as well as specialist programming fees and script payments
what visitors have to pay the domain and hosting fee
and also the specialist programming and script payments
Created on: 18-Oct-01
Expires on: 18-Oct-09

His domain was created on 18 oct 01 and Expires: 2009-10-18 so he paid in 2001 for 8 years.
Lots of donations are made in this time so this costs will not cost his neck
What you think???
If someone opens a domain for a fairer get paid industrie should visiters paid for the domain and hosting fee?
and what about the `special program and script payments`the special toys for Rob?
Who sais he use the donations for that? What if he goes on a ski vacantion with the donation money?
WHO will know? who will ask? Blind trust him? hmm I know I sure not

But heeee here he say something else blink.gif blink.gif

All the donations that we receive are used to finance new and existing projects around the GPTBoycott website, and to further the goal that GPTBoycott strives for: a fairer get-paid industry for all.

Is a fairer get paid to industry dependant on donations to ROB?? ohmy.gif Don´t think so hahhahahahah

And what are the new and exsisting projects around the GPT boygot I begin to wonder unsure.gif unsure.gif
Did he ever told us he has projects that cost money ~????

GPTBoycott has no intentions to get a fairer PTR . It is all about money, money money.
The best project Rob can think of is his OWN POCKET PROJECT
Nothing more, nothing less

If you consider seriously to donate GPTBoycott please READ THE TERMS BEFORE YOU DO
If you want to be part of the HIG SECRET TOP CONTRIBUTERS GROUP
you can OR post 1000 times or donate $ 20 or more of course

The Top Contributor Forum is a special forum which is visible only to certain special members of our Discussion Forum. The Top Contributor Forum exists for two main purposes:

To reward those members who have contributed heavily to the work GPTBoycott does,
To allow us to discuss new ideas and projects for the site with those members who know and understand GPTBoycott and what we are trying to achieve best.

So it is a secret forum you have to pay at least $ 20 to be part of it. Paying $ 20 does make you automaticly considdered as a member who understand and know GPTBoygot
A classical case of WITH MONEY YOU CAN BUY ALL (spoken of corrupion) call it mafia practice if you like


or Make over 1000 posts in our Discussion Forum hahahhahahahahahah
OKE 1000 posts will bring you the traffic?
so it is money or money that you need, one way or the other

And what to think about what you will get for being a secret top contributer
Please hold ur pampers ready
As well as being able to access the secret Top Contributor Forum there are other benefits to becoming a Top Contributor, which include:

Private Messaging storage space increased from 200 messages to 2000 messages
Lordy me 2000 messages Who the heck need 2000 messages. I would seriously that considder as SPAM

Ability to help shape the future of GPTBoycott by participating in our Working Groups
So you pay $20 to work in a workgroup. hahahahah that is the other way around. You don´t get paid to click, but pay to work
One thing I was told from the beginning NOT TO DO. NEVER pay for work or a job

Free advertising at GPTBoycott is offered to Top Contributors from time to time.
well well well

PLEASE READ THE TERM especialy this part
The Top Contributor usergroup status and associated access to the Top Contributor Forum is awarded at the sole discretion of the staff at GPTBoycott, and may be denied, removed, revoked or amended without notice for any reason deemed correct. This power is unlikely to be exercised in the absence of severe misconduct from the member in question.

So it indeed will be a very select elite group And you know who they are


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post Sep 26 2008, 03:46 PM
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I've added a new way in which you may become a Top Contributor member today which doesn't involve making 1000 posts or making any financial donation.

Users are now able to complete one of our TrialPay signup offers to become a Top Contributor member! Essentially, all you have to do is sign up for one of these offers, and then GPTBoycott will benefit by earning funds which can be re-invested into the site.

To read full details of the program and how to become a Top Contributor member please see .gptboycott.com/donate/topcontrib.php.


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blink.gif Not a 'financial donation' ? rolleyes.gif blink.gif huh.gif he is making money of it wink.gif

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Try or buy one offer from your preferred brands and get your favorite products—free. TrialPay uses money from the advertiser to pay for your product. It's that easy.
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Become a lifetime Top Contributor member at the GPTBoycott Discussion Forum, and gain access to our exclusive Top Contributor Forum.

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Not paying 'Nothing' is misleading like so much at that circus is wink.gif

Yes, they now able to complete a signup offer, which we all know does COST something, if nothing else they charge the processing fees to complete those offers.

So either way, those who want that famous title, STILL have to pay to get access to that 'SECRET FORUM' and unlike Rob stated, is NOT FREE.

And here is what one would have to do to get the original product wanted for free:

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For example, can't be convinced to shell out for software? Send flowers from FTD, sign up for Blockbuster Total Access or buy clothes from Gap.com and get your favorite software for free. It's that easy.


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So again, it is NOT free to complete an offer , any which way you look at it.


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Try or buy one offer from your preferred brands and get your favorite products—free. TrialPay uses money from the advertiser to pay for your product. It's that easy.
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NOBODY will give anything away for free, not walmart, blockbuster, ebay or any other merchants, only one making profit is Rob himself.

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Is the "free" software I get really just a trial version?
No! If you selected a software product, you get a full, free license. The name "TrialPay" comes from the idea of buying something by trying something else. You pay for your free item by trying one offer from some of the most respected companies out there (Blockbuster, eBay, Gap.com, FTD.com, Real Networks, American Express and hundreds more).


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Lets see the payments Rob may receive:

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TrialPay guarantees that you will receive at least the minimum you require for each transaction and often much more. For example, if the price of your product is $35, you will earn at least $35 for every completed transaction. However, frequently the customer chooses an advertiser's offer with a payout much larger than the $35 you require. In these cases you could make $40, $50 or even $80 for a transaction where you would normally receive just $35 through Visa, PayPal or other common payment platforms.


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So since Rob was called out on selling all those spots etc......at that circus and having google ads displayed all over which are now replaced with bidvertiser (would not be surpised if google canceled his account as it did violated theirterms JMO)

So now he is using another venue to make money with a website he again counts on the traffic for sales, trials, whatever he likes to call it.

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TrialPay pays you on the 15th of every month by check, bank wire, direct deposit and PayPal. All payments for a particular month will be aggregated and sent in one lump sum by the 15th of the following month. Payments are guaranteed.


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Just another way for Rob to make money but he says it is not a business site, well looks to me he is using it as such when he signed up with 'trial pay ', hoping that some members of that circus will use those so called 'free trials/offers' (NOT FREE) and make him money.


BEWARE of GPTBoycott ,they have NO CREDIBILITY, NO AUTHORITY & most importantly, NO LICENSE to do what they doing and BEWARE of them if you value your PRIVACY!!!!!




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post Sep 26 2008, 09:44 PM
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I looked into this "TrialPay," and I found it to be the same ole, same ole with a new face. Guess Robbie Boy will get hefty profits? Hmmmmmmmmmmm, like a webmaster a few years ago that reaped in the bucks from offering "rewards" to members who signed up for offers that she had on her "Buzz Bucks" page?

Well, anyway, here's the scoop on TrialPay:




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"TrialPay is an online payment option that lets shoppers purchace their product by completing one advertising offer."
Right off the bat that gives me the heebie jeebies.

(from their FAQ)

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How/where do I use TrialPay?

TrialPay is a payment method just like Visa, MasterCard, PayPal, Google Checkout and Bill Me Later. Except with TrialPay, advertisers pay for your free product. Look for TrialPay on your favorite sites. Transact with TrialPay, get your favorite products—free.




They claim they are a payment processing company like Visa and PayPal? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, do not credit card companies charge interest and PayPal service fees for transactions? And this company says their service is "free?"

How? (just read the FAQ)

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How does TrialPay work?

If you aren't willing to pay for a merchant's product directly, the merchant would rather have you transact with another brand rather than abandon your purchase entirely.

TrialPay connects shoppers with ideal offers and pays the merchant out of advertising revenue. Everyone benefits from this arrangement. Merchants make sales from lost or unlikely customers, advertisers acquire new customers and shoppers get a free product. So while this offer sounds too good to be true, it's actually in everyone's best interest...and just as good as it sounds. TrialPay makes it happen.
Generally speaking, if one is not "willing to pay for a merchant's product..." one does not want it or need it, right? Well....almost, as there are some things I want but just can't afford to buy, lol.

And, look at this:

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I have completed an offer. Where is my product? How do I get support?

As stated, the completion time for our offers can vary. If the estimated time window has passed and you have not received a confirmation from TrialPay, please check your spam or filtered mail folder. If you have not received a TrialPay confirmation, please contact our support team for assistance.
And I honestly do NOT believe TrialPay or AnyPay will utilize their own profits just to give you something free unless THEY expect to PROFIT even MORE from doing that.


But, here, you either have to sign up for a free trial (of something you already know you don't want or because you can't afford it after the free trial period) or BUY something to get whatever it is you would like to have for free.

But, you can't sign up for a free trial you won't keep after the free trial period. They may accuse you of fraud if you do a "quick cancellation."

Now, they specifically advise AGAINST signing up for a free trial with the intent to cancel before the trial period ends:

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You may not sign up for an advertiser offer with the intent to immediately cancel or return the item or service from the advertiser.A "quick cancellation" is considered to be fraudulent, and may void your order. TrialPay may, at its discretion, suspend or revoke your right to use the TrialPay service if you are found to have engaged in such activity.


But, shouldn't they be a bit more specific and define "quick cancellation?" I mean, to me it may be two weeks into the trial offer before cancelling and they may consider that a "quick cancellation."


Ok, let's look a bit more at the nitty gritty - TOS:

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Depending on the offer completed, there may a delay in receiving your product due to a delay in reporting of offer completion to TrialPay from the third-party. The times specified in the TrialPay checkout process for order fulfillment are estimates only. In cases where the delay exceeds the estimated completion time, you may submit proof of the completed advertiser (called a "receipt") for manual review. If approved by TrialPay you will be manually credited with your free product/service.TrialPay in its sole discretion has the right to accept or deny any such receipts and is not obliged to provide any reasons for its decisions. Receipts submitted 45 days after the offer was initiated will not be considered.



A lotta loop holes there, folks.....you know, for "them" room to deny completing their end of the bargain.

And, look out for your right to privacy!(tos)

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Except where expressly provided otherwise by us, all comments, feedback, information, or materials that you submit through or in association with the Site shall be considered non-confidential.....

....TrialPay is free to use in any manner all or part of the content of any such communications on an unrestricted basis without the obligation to notify, identify or compensate you or anyone elseand iv.You grant TrialPay all necessary rights, including a waiver of all privacy and moral rights, to use all comments, feedback, information, or materials, in whole or in part, or as a derivative work, without any duty by TrialPay to anyone whatsoever.




This is nothing new. It's the same ole, same ole - just a different form.

They SAY that it's through profits from advertisers that these offers are provided. What's that tell you?

Well, from my point of view it tells me they are charging too much for advertising! LOL

And, once the "new face" of an old gimmick fails to produce profits, well......

There's a reason for everything, and, in this case, it's just another gimmick for someone to profit from mis-guided attempts to "sell" people things they don't want just so they can get something free.

What's a shame is people actually fall for this gimmick.

Edited by me for getting the quotes straight. smile.gif

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, guess "Top Contributer" gimmick isn't working, either.


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Circus stats:


9-10-08
Active Members: 665




As of today, 9-27-08:

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Active Members: 581




Oh well.......


Judge for yourself! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


If 84 members become inactive every 17 days..........how long will it take to reach 0 active members?

Oh, wait! It will never reach 0 as long as the "gang" members hang in there and talk to themselves.

Heck, they might even sign up for TrialPay and buy a few things so Rob can afford to keep the site running? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif




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Well Donna, those stats go down daily exept for the times Rob sends a mail out about what happened at that circus such as a new site is being boycotted or that 'we' (general) are missed there tongue.gif

9-28-08
Active Members: 565

since 8-12-08 the activity level at that 3 ring circus dropped from 1,002 to 565, that is 437 members just don't give a hoot anymore and seen the truth about what is going on there, lies, accusations, assumptions, attacks, insults, posting private info and false alligations and on and on it goes............


Oh and btw, take a look who is back as moderator,DAzHiredGun,seems Rob is really desperate for those as it looks like they come and go faster then anyone can keep up with wink.gif




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Re: Cashcrate shouldn't even be on the watch list

They've had issues in the past with booting people off for odd reasons...no offense. On top of that, the owner has been in...legal...troubles. I forget all the charges, but it was like conspiracy for grand theft, and intimidating/harassing a court witness.


This is the type of accusations that go on at that 3 ring circus and then the same ones yell 'don't be so rude' when those accused are fighting back in the same manner .

In this case it was about the 'Cashcrate' site which was placed on the watchlist and of which I'am not a member off and do not know anything about ,but , the owner himself had to register at that sand pit in order to defend himself, that is what the aim is there, accuse to get new members and of course more traffic, how pathetic is that.

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How unfortunate for me that someone who committed a crime in Nevada happens to have my name! Please, go Google Joe Coleman and see how many results you'll find. I can tell you roughly what you'll see: one famous (relatively crazy) painter, TWO Major League Baseball pitchers, and an actor.
And those are just the famous ones. Go search for Joe Coleman and Nevada and you'll find there are a bunch of us in the state. For what it's worth, this record dates back to 2001, when I wasn't even living in Nevada. At that point I was still happily studying Philosophy at the University of Idaho, only to move to Nevada a few years later. If anyone really wanted to verify this, they could do so relatively easily.
I'm usually VERY understanding of people's opinions about CashCrate and our business, but this is personal and absolutely untrue. Please, from now on, do a little more research before you defame someone's name in public.


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I wasn't - I was pointing out something that I have seen in many other places before. I confirmed what I had heard by doing a bit of research, and I find it interesting that you have only responded to MY post about this, and not the many others I've seen in the past. If it's not true, then fine. You didn't need to get rude about it. I merely stated that I'd heard something and wanted to see if it was true, and then I looked up stuff to see if it was. Unfortunately for you, that's what I found.
Please, before you decide to bash someone in public, read a bit more first and try not to jump the gun.


She HEARD something and supposedly confirmed? And did not even apologized for accusing someone like she did and on top of it told him NOT to jump the gun?


She clearely says he HAS been in legal troubles like for conspiracy for grand theft, that is slander but not suprising to me, after all, it comes from that circus and any accusations are allowed there, no matter if those are false or not. wink.gif


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Just wanted to point out that you were not just "merely stating that you'd heard something and wanted to see if it was true". You outright said that this crime was committed by the owner of CashCrate, as your exact quote says:

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On top of that, the owner has been in...legal...troubles. I forget all the charges, but it was like conspiracy for grand theft, and intimidating/harassing a court witness.



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So I don't believe that Joe was out of line by asking you to do more research before blindly defaming someone's name in public.


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Please, before you decide to bash someone in public, read a bit more first and try not to jump the gun.

I'm confused... that's exactly what you did to him. He was merely replying and defending himself, you decided to go out of your way to defame a person that you've never spoken to.


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Lo and behold here comes Rob talking about forum etiquette, can you believe that blink.gif

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Thank you for making your point. I think that this discussion is getting quite heated so I'd like to remind everybody of our forum etiquette box on the left of every forum page.


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he really must be desperate to get involved at all in any discussion, he really must not want to lose any more actives and he has some room talking about 'forum etiquette' all of a sudden after he let stand insult after insult, lies after lies, false alligations after false alligations and allowed (s) those bashing to go on without stepping in at all. wink.gif

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People, you just are going to keep proving my point. Nobody listens to people when it's their favorite site on the line. You'll just keep ganging up on them, and will refuse to listen to any who may, or may not, have a legitimate complaint. Your mob mentality is going to cause more problems than it helps - if someone was ACTUALLY wronged, instead of it possibly being looked into and hopefully fixed by the owner, you're going to scare them into silence.


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Nothing has changed at that circus, it is still do as I say, not so as I do, but, the so much needed traffic will come in if there is anyone who needs to defend themself (s) to false alligations etc.......

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It does take five complaints to get them on the watch list so there must be others that feel strongly enough to complain to get them watched.
Who complained and what reason did they use for the complaint? Only those who are admin know for sure and who can trust THEM?

See, that's another gripe I have with GPTB. A complaint is a complaint is a complaint, and it should be listed for ALL to see to determine for themselves whether the complaints are legitimate, right from the git go.

And, as you can see, showing that particular case still doesn't prove it was the person who owns the site they are discussing!

And, yet, just because it was POSTED, others ASSUME it is the same person! Just as jenteel stated:

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Wow thanks for posting this information. I had heard the rumors before but they were rumors and frankly I was going to be done with them as soon as I got my last payment so I didn't care what they did.




Looks to me like the small-town gossip spreading lies.

I, too, am not a member of cashcrate, but, what I am seeing here is another bashing of an owner of a site - and THAT is wrong!



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There's always the rabid fanatics who'll bash a person down for having the slightest suspicion because...well....their site is PERFECT. Don't you DARE say anything against their site. tongue.gif
There she goes again, lol. Accusing members who stand up for a program "bashers."

She should have looked in the mirror when she posted that case just because the name was the same as the owner.

She should also speak for herself:

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People, you just are going to keep proving my point. Nobody listens to people when it's their favorite site on the line. You'll just keep ganging up on them, and will refuse to listen to any who may, or may not, have a legitimate complaint. Your mob mentality is going to cause more problems than it helps - if someone was ACTUALLY wronged, instead of it possibly being looked into and hopefully fixed by the owner, you're going to scare them into silence.


Ahhhhhhhhh, this one is wise smile.gif:

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So you pay a little bit of attention. It was more of a "you talk out of your ***" statement, by saying "Oh and I do know how to gain referrals but the difference is I only guide my referrals towards legit sites that are actually paying off." Implying that cashcrate doesn't pay. This ****ty little website really doesn't affect much. All people have to do is go to the "CashCrate's Official I Didn't Get Paid Thread" To falsify your little watchlist.
Awwwwwwwwwww, pooy pucky, it's the same ole, same ole. If the bashing doesn't work, they accuse the site owners of sending their members to defend them. Ho hum, and, of course, they can't back up their "truth" because they don't have to.

I think good ole pietro should abide by his own signature, lol.

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It is far better to remain silent and have people think you a fool than to open your mouth (or post on a forum) and remove all doubt.


Seems to me that defaming someone as Seraph attempted to do should be removed rather than repremanding someone for saying "s****ty", lol.

Hey pietro! You're a "retired" judge, right? Falsely accusing someone of a crime they didn't commit is defamation, right?

And, here he is again, lol:

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Exactly and thank you for your very well worded explanation. To incite means to make posts that you know you will result in people getting upset or defensive....on both sides of a discussion.

ETA: Another definition is posts that make me have to do edits.
Trying to be cute or something, pietro?

And, yet,pietro does NOTHING about the very next post, which is true blue incite, in response to "Why ... is everyone supporting CC in the first place?":

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Why else? Money.


Now, if that isn't saying something to "upset" or become "defensive," then I don't know what is!

But, then, again, I guess it's because the person (Seraph) who said that is one of the "gang," lol.



I'll lay odds that this one gets boycotted, too - all because the site was down for a few days due to server problems. What a shame.


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