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[halexzo]

Merlin2307
Guys, you know they don't care about anything but good old Bill and his ineptly run Bgpaymail. They even went so far as to publish my name in an email. That's ok,they did their research and got my name off my domain information or on some article I have written and published here on the internet. Well halexo,like I said i have no qualms about stooping to your level and playing the same game. All one has to do is look at one of your payments from paypal to a bg member and they can find your name and address,or don't you remember putting them there XXXXX. Little google research also reveals an interesting maiden name--XXXX. Sorry to have missed the March 2 wedding anniversary. Would have been nice to have gone out to local steak house or movie theater there in xxxxx. Does xxx approve of what your doing on the internet or is he an ex now and that is why Bill helps pay the monthly bills? I think you get the general idea now don't you? As always..JMO.. ..Merlin..

I am not sure what you think you found, but once again you proved what a scum site boycott actually is, allowing that type of posting going on there.

You have posted the info of people who have nothing to do with anything here, who most likely dont even know about that circus site.

You can't find nothing on Bill, so you use just anyones info and plaster it all over that circus, what a miserable person you must be, in a way I feel sorry for you.

You proved we been right all along, "do as I say, not as I do" IS the motto at boycott.

You went against all what your buddies been complaining about and we will see if Pietro (and admin.) has something to say about plastering those peoples names there, after all, he had something to comment on about those who were in the mails, which btw, I have nothing to do with, I do NOT send mails out nor do I dictated what to put in those.

Other then that, I will not dignify scum by posting all the info I found on you or others all over the forums, I do respect anyones privacy, including yours but this time you crossed the line in more ways then one.

Keep searching merlin, but make VERY sure you have the right person (s) before you bring innocent bystanders in to anything having to do with that circus over there.

quoting fight4justice
A word of "Warning" "beware" of joining GET PAID TO BOYCOTT THEY HAVE DOUBLE STANDARD THEY ADVERTISE PONZI, SCAMS & GET RICH SCHEMES THROUGH GOOGLE ADSENSE AND SITES THAT BREAK PP’S AUP ADVERTISED THROUGH ADMIN’S SIGNATURE - PO’s SHOULD BEWARE OF THE CIRCUS CALLED GET PAID TO BOYCOTT

This post has been edited by halexzo: Mar 26 2008, 11:22 AM

Reason for edit: add/removed

[yokoda]

1904

Today, 06:27
Guys, you know they don't care about anything but good old Bill and his ineptly run Bgpaymail. They even went so far as to publish my name in an email. That's ok,they did their research and got my name off my domain information or on some article I have written and published here on the internet. Well halexo,like I said i have no qualms about stooping to your level and playing the same game. All one has to do is look at one of your payments from paypal to a bg member and they can find your name and address,or don't you remember putting them there Brigitte. Little google research also reveals an interesting maiden name--XXXX. Sorry to have missed the March 2 wedding anniversary. Would have been nice to have gone out to local steak house or movie theater there in xxxxx. Does xxx approve of what your doing on the internet or is he an ex now and that is why Bill helps pay the monthly bills? I think you get the general idea now don't you? As always..JMO.. ..Merlin..

Ok, you are all now showing your true colours, first it was trulyfair letting me know how many vowels and consonants there are in my name which means she is researching me I don't recall ever mentioning her name or even attempted to and now the lowest of low Merlin decides to attack Halexzo, let me ask you all something, was it us who put those names in that email so because you can’t get to Bill, you decide to attack us for defending BGPM??? You were all up in arms when those names appeared in that email and we did say they are all over the WWW and we had found them too, does that mean we are the ones who put those names there? So if anyone of you can truthfully come out and say you didn't try to find out who we are, come out now but I bet you've all tried, even Pietro admitted searching for those names.

What we have found out about Rob, we have addressed to Rob and you do not agree with it and all go out to attack BG members who stand up for the site and where are your moderators? Hiding are they? BTW moderators of the thread I mean not the one involved in the thread.

So much for everyone at the circus, crying invasion of privacy when your name and wil’s appeared in that email, so once again you have proven how GPTBrag works, attack attack attack. And of course Rob is not responsible for anything posted at his forum is he? He’s only responsible to collect the $$$$$$$$$$ earned from the traffic you bring in, are you hoping for a bonus perhaps? But Merlin, you better make sure you have the right Brigitte as Texas is a big place and make sure your IRS friends aren't giving you the wrong information.

So go ahead play your dirty games but BGPM will still be here with it's members whether you like it or not.

A word of "Warning" "beware" of joining GET PAID TO BOYCOTT THEY HAVE DOUBLE STANDARD THEY ADVERTISE PONZI, SCAMS & GET RICH SCHEMES THROUGH GOOGLE ADSENSE AND SITES THAT BREAK PP’S AUP ADVERTISED THROUGH ADMIN’S SIGNATURE - PO’s SHOULD BEWARE OF THE CIRCUS CALLED GET PAID TO BOYCOTT

1904
Today, 19:56
Fight4Justice you made a point,I deleted the post. Although the information is available thru google and other programs,I did make my point. Posting and keeping another persons information,putting that information out in an email or on a forum is wrong. Yes Bill is responsible but I also blame the rest of you,as YOU guys and gals on the BG forum probably did the research for him and provided the information. I could have done alot worse by posting other stuff that is available or paying research programs for info like phone number,credit reports,criminal background check etc.. You the bgpaymail members are responsible for the things Bill does as it takes members to make a program,working members or there is no program. Yes,I have reported people to paypal for what I feel are violations of their TOS/AUP,but like I also said it is Paypal that makes the final decision as to if there was a violation or not and any punishment. You can find it strange,but I do it out of a sense of morality not monetary reward like you all have stated and lied about. It's all I am going to say about it. As always...JMO......Merlin...

Merlin what you did was worse enough. Periot
You left an innocent man’s information on a scamforum for 12 ½ hours
You asume that Bill needs other to provide any information about anyone anywhere
If You realy think that HA you must be told to do research by ROB as he is hiding behind your old face
Doing dirty work seems to be a normale task for you but that does not mean others have the same value's about decenty and integrity

Well don’t you dare to pull me or anyone else in there.

WE the so called guys and gals from Bgfprum as just as responcible for the things Bill did, does or will do as YOU are RESPONSIBLE for what ROB is doing It is a very imature idea you have settled in your character
I hope your grandkids will be told to be wiser and they learn to be responsible for their own deeds

ROB made a scamsite Boygot , he is connected with other forums with the same set up and goals to Misleading New Members in PTR for years now to fill his own pockekt. AND YOU are responcible for THAT onthe same level we are responsible for bill’s actions. I think it is to late for you to grow up man, you realy missed your change

And reporting people to PP or others you call that a sence of morality
Well I am staying very far from people like YOU, a puppet on a string

yokoda

[admin]

1904

Today, 06:27
Guys, you know they don't care about anything but good old Bill and his ineptly run Bgpaymail. They even went so far as to publish my name in an email. That's ok,they did their research and got my name off my domain information or on some article I have written and published here on the internet. Well halexo,like I said i have no qualms about stooping to your level and playing the same game. All one has to do is look at one of your payments from paypal to a bg member and they can find your name and address,or don't you remember putting them there Brigitte. Little google research also reveals an interesting maiden name--XXXX. Sorry to have missed the March 2 wedding anniversary. Would have been nice to have gone out to local steak house or movie theater there in xxxxx. Does xxx approve of what your doing on the internet or is he an ex now and that is why Bill helps pay the monthly bills? I think you get the general idea now don't you? As always..JMO.. ..Merlin..

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Merlin,
I should not even waste my breath to call You anything but an informer, snitch and a lowest of the low sums and scumbags.
Even Your bosses did get rid of You, as they could not stand the type of scum that You are. And that is a fact, not an opinion.

How dare You to involve innocent people in Your garbage?

Ms Halexzo, and the rest of the people involved here at BGPayMail 'Your Forum' are doing it all on their own, as I do mine.

AND I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE CONTENT.

And she definitely did not go and post Your names (all of You there) all over the internet, You did that all on Your own.

Also, Ms Halexzo, Ms JM2560 have more intergrity, character, and all the traits of a person that You do not even know what they mean.

Ms Halexzo and Ms JM2560 do have all my trust and confidence in their abilities and trustworthiness of the highest standard immaginable.

And if Ms Halexzo wishes to pursue the matter of PRIVACY issus further, she have all the resources that she will ever need to finish it.

You, Rob, the wIL THE idiot aka FREECASHSPACE were yapping about for ages, even included that balloney in Your idiotic 'Rubbish rules'.

DO THOSE RULES OF PRIVACY DO NOT MEAN ANYTHING IN YOUR cubicle?

Can You say the same You scumbag?

And yes, it is ME POSTING and oh, would You like me to post Your DETAILS of everything? Including IRS crap? Just say so.

[Donna]

It's a sad, sad, shame to see what extent an ex government agent would go to just to make a point.

It horrifies me to even THINK how much private information could have been shared by the likes of people like Merlin, who, vowed by government agency policy on privacy, and by constitution, worked in a US government institution.

HE, of all those people over there, besided the fine, upstanding Pietro, should KNOW better than REVEALING ANYONE'S private information without a legal purpose is against the law!

You know, mentioning a real name in the public is nothing compared to what Merlin has done. NOTHING of Merlin's personal life was exposed other than what was written by his own hand in his egotistic proclamation that he has worked for the IRS!

Hmmmmmmmm, wonder if that's why he no longer works for IRS? Maybe it was found that he was "selling" private information on tax payers? Or even just sharing it as he DOES seem to like to gossip.

Merlin, IMO, is worse than Robert Hannson (FBI agent who pled guilty of 15 counts of espionage and conspiracy for passing classified information to Russia)!

Hannson did it for big money. Merlin does it for egotistical purposes.

It seems that sharing or reporting information to head haunchos of big business and government agencies makes them feel important. More so on small scale operations, as, Merlin surely doesn't get any financial benefits out of reporting to PayPal. Or, could it BE so? Who knows?



Under the PRIVACY ACT of 1974, 5 U.S.C. 552a, there is stipulation on disclosure:

Conditions of disclosure

No agency shall disclose any record which is contained in a system of records by any means of communication to any person, or to another agency, except pursuant to a written request by, or with the prior written consent of, the individual to whom the record pertains, unless disclosure of the record would be--

(1) to those officers and employees of the agency which maintains the record who have a need for the record in the performance of their duties;

GPTB is NOT a government agency, nor is there ANY NEED for ANY of you to disclose such info to ANYONE!

You have no RIGHT to disclose who someone is married to, their address, OR their ANY other private matter in any forum of which there is public access.

Producing a name is just that - a name. Names are not private - they are a matter of public record, and, mentioning a name violates nothing!

But, to provide PRIVATE info, along WITH that name IS a matter of violating privacy when there's no need to disclose such!

(And, please do not confuse this with disclosing a ptr member's account records for the purpose of prividing evidence to show proof contrary to that of a member's accusations - it's just a "user name, and numbers," not their marital status, their home address or family information!)

The more you write, the more you hang yourselves - AND GPTB - AND Rob!

We KNOW you are hurt by the truth, but, GEEZE, get a grip, here!

All that we've exposed is what was written by your own hand and what has been exposed by Robby Boy, himself! We have NOT taken it further - like exposing marital records or family history.

What does halexo's private family info have to do with discussion of the issues of a mere PTR program, huh?


Boycotting GPTB isn't enough! GPTB should be banned from the Internet for allowing such rubbish as Merlin to even post in their forum!

[fight4justice]

The only thing you proved Merlin is how far some at GPTBrag will go to try and intimidate defenders.

Judy I’m glad you’d like to make Halexzo your friend, you couldn’t do better take my word for it and as for me having a double identity that has already been explained more than once so feel free to look for the post I did apologise to Rob at the time by pm. Rob & Bill both know my reasons.

Trulyfair so AFTER we said their names were all over the internet you decided to check if that was true but decided to research ME instead of the ones mentioned in the email, right, there they go flying and also decided that because of what we said, it meant we provided the information to Bill, did you?

Wagdoll you are right everything is being read negatively by both side, it has gone too far. BGPM is on the boycott list be it unjustly and really is not the discussion point anymore.

The purpose of our thread is to point out what GPTB is really about and sure we did some research and found plenty and you all don’t like what we are pointing out so naturally you all go on the attack, because you can’t prove that we are wrong in our findings and Rob sits back and watch the money rolling in through the traffic that you all bring in.

The only way for this to end really is for Rob to stand up and tell us the real reason he chooses to advertise what he proclaims GPTB is against and trying to stop.

A word of "Warning" "beware" of joining GET PAID TO BOYCOTT THEY HAVE DOUBLE STANDARD THEY ADVERTISE PONZI, SCAMS & GET RICH SCHEMES THROUGH GOOGLE ADSENSE AND SITES THAT BREAK PP’S AUP ADVERTISED THROUGH ADMIN’S SIGNATURE - PO’s SHOULD BEWARE OF THE CIRCUS CALLED GET PAID TO BOYCOTT

[Donna]

Before I address the quotes by wagdoll below, let's rationalize what GPTB is supposed to be about.

The key prhase in the introduction is "fight against scam" in the GPT Industry.

First of all GPT means to GET Paid TO do whatever - read, click on links, banners, etc. The MAIN objective word is "PAID."

Now, scam in the GPT Industry is what? NOT getting paid for what one does. Or, not coming forth with what is promised for investments made.

Character of a webmaster and how he or she runs a business has NOTHING to do with scam as long as they PAY their members according to their tos.

I'm sorry, but, as long as a webmaster PAYS, I honestly do not think boycotting is justified.

If one joins a program and doesn't like the way a program is run, or the attitude of a webmaster, just quit, or wait until you reach payout to do so.


Here are some of the things I would like to address that wagdoll stated:

You never would have cared about these things if not for the boycott, you've all said they are not things you actually mind. You did some research and found some things that very few actually care about, some things that are meaningless and some things you've attributed strangely as evidence of some evil plot and fraud when they are nothing of the kind. You even found some evidence of mistakes Rob's made in the past, but you didn't present it in a way to evoke discussion which could have been a good thing. Does attack mean attacking BG's practices, the ludicrous accusations, the false allegations? People are attacking those because they're wrong and presented very rudely with false insinuations against people here. If you repeat that someone eats children and you have evidence of this (a child's romper suit in the trash in the same bag as some bones that still have cooked flesh on them!) they will get upset even though the conclusion is not true.

I beg to differ here.

The minute BGPayMail came up for discussion at GPTB is when we cared, or we wouldn't have faught so hard defending it.

Y'all jumped the gun. The problem with payouts was temporary and, despite the fact that BGPayMail has rectified the situation, got payouts caught up, you continued accusing, inciting, and blamed Bill for things even GPTB does - advertising ponzis, MLM, surf, etc.

You call us members everything from being prostitutes, cult followers, and even so much as called Bill a drug pusher.

You falsified screenshots of a charity donation, twisted the meaning of the term, "slaves" used in a discussion in our chat; even tried to cheat by quitting and resigning up thinking you could get a second sign-up bonus.

You violated GPTB forum rules constantly and the moderators did nothing.

So, yes, we began to investigate GPTB, BEFORE BGPayMail was put on the Watch List OR Boycott list.

We didn't discuss GPTB until after the boycott because we needed evidence to prove how GPTB works.

Yes, we had to resort to reciprocating on the same level as those who posted so negatively at GPTB because it seemed y'all wouldn't understand unless you got a dish of your own medicine.

If you mean the ads on the forum, you know why Rob's using them. You know he has tried to stop the ads for illegal programs coming through with the help of some members here. If Rob was to say it in his own words why would that stop these emails from Bill? Why would it stop you guys searching for peoples' personal information online to post in hate-filled messages in paid emails? Even if those type of things ended, you can't take them away now, the deeds are done. Apologies might help, but all Bill is doing is digging a deeper hole for BGpaymail and I think you guys are helping.

I think your eyes are blinded, wagdoll. Simple remedy, despite the pretence of "effort" to stop those kinds of ads, would be to disassociate from the use of the AdSense program. And, keep in mind, it appears that Rob wouldn't have done anything if wil had not brought the issue up. You can't tell me that a man who has the intelligence to study law wouldn't understand how to utilized the tools AdSense has available to ensure that the ads are compatable with the purpose of GPTB.

Rob knew all along what he was doing and could probably kick wil where the sun doesn't shine for even requesting that the issue of advertising be used a reason to boycott. We even warned Rob of how wil (who was banned from MANY foruns) works, but, he didn't listen.

And, no, none of us can take back what we said or did. But, keep in mind, it was only names mentioned, and opines on our end. We didn't go so far as to bring up marital status and other family names. We brought up only those things that were your own words. What Merlin did was dispickable to say the least and uncalled for, as ONLY his name was mentioned - which, he, himself, publicized.

Like I suggested before, if you don't like the complaints, start looking at what's happening at BG with these horrific mails and threats to members, and the nastiness and false allegations in the forum and stop them. Then the complaints will at least die down and this to and fro between these two forums should die down with them. Bill can get on with running his program, Rob can get on with running this forum and the boycott process and if there's ads for 'bad' things coming through Adsense someone can point them out to him and he can do what he can to get them removed - which I think is a good thing and it was happening already. It's a shame they wont be stopped system wide and also stop being sent on PTR programs along with encouragements and inducements to click fraud.

We don't mind legitimate complaints. We even tried to HELP Ianh understand, and, in the end, he DID get paid - albeit not the "late" bonus because, rather than utilize ALL avenues to resolve the issue, he jumped the gun by going "outside" the prgram. Now, IF he would have posted in OUR forum, since the mails were being spammed, I'm sure Bill would have rectified the issue sooner than it was, AND, paid the "late" payment bonus.

The "click fraud" issue is a totally different issue that has nothing to do with BGPayMail. If you want to discuss that, go to WIW.


The GPT Industry seems to be the only honest advertising system there is. They are up front, telling their advertising clients that incentives are used as a means to get the traffic to their clients. Yes, it seems advertisers only use GPT as a last resort, but, hey, they get the traffic at far less cost per click than they do with search engines.

It's ovvious why we think Rob is defrauding the AdSense program as he doesn't care enough to ustilize the tools AdSense offers to make the ads coincide with the purpose of GPTB. Instead, he "preferred" those ads because of his own greed - those kinds of ads bring in the most money because they bid the highest to be promoted by AdSense. The higher the bid, the more Rob gets paid.

Rob may have pulled the wool over y'all's eyes, but, from what we are finding, it's obvious he is nothing but a Fraudster, USING pretence to satisfy his own greed.

And, thanks to us, more and more people are realizing it.

You see, our accusations are backed by facts and evidence of Rob's own words.

Our logic is that of common sense - no need to twist words around to suit us, or post just to see our words in print.

And, yes, anyone will reciprocate in kind when they are personally attacked and called names that mock their integrity.

Had y'all not done the things you did, none of this would have escalated to this point.

But, anyway, all our hard work is paying off, as the TRUTH about GPTB has been revealed. And, that's just the tip of the iceburg. You would be shocked at the things we know, but, do not reveal.

At any rate, enjoy your posting while you can, as some of you are just hanging yourselves - and GPTB. Once GPTB is hanged, the site will disappear from cyberspace.

[davidj31]

Good grief!! I've been away for a while and I come back to find the little group at boycott have run to getpaid forum to keep the issue alive.

Guess what blows my mind is the so called goody two shoes attitude. They got more than they bargained for this time. People have not cowered away for fear of what retaliation that little group might resort to and it is bugging the crap out of them.

I understand wanting to warn people of non paying sites but give me a break, if you don't like a site because it doesn't suit your own personal style and tastes then quit.

I think what is really ironic is the little group who detest Bg so much are apparently still members here as they are plastering emails at other forums to use as so called ammunition against Bg. Are they that naive to think that members of PTR programs are that stupid that they have not put two and two together?

People who frequent forums don't necessarily all go to take part, they go to read and find new information out. I'm sure people can make up their own minds if Bg suits their needs and I'm certain many are sitting back laughing at the absurdity of those taking part in the derogatory posts against Bg knowing they still belong to Bg to have access to members emails.

It takes two to tango and they just don't get it or they choose not to get it because they have a vested interest in keeping their own internet income flowing in. In other words they need to find ways to refute any evidence found out and posted here because it shows them for what they are.

I'll take my chances with the people here as I know the other group of naysayers would turn on me and others in a blink of the eye and stab us in the back should they not like an opinion or thought it would further their own agenda of making money on line.

[Donna]

Well, see, David, that's how they are.

When they saw that they couldn't defeat BGPayMail, they get personal and start attacking and inciting on a personal level. It's no longer about BGPayMail over there - it's about us who defended the program and Bill - and our findings from our research on GPTB.

Look how innocent they act - hahahahahaha - like they never called us prostitutes or cult followers!
The only reason we don't see it anymore is because they had to hurry up and clean up all that Libel before they get caught.

Somehow, they think that will wash out all we are finding out and displaying here, lol. But, all they can do is resort to twisting things around and try to make us look bad (ROTFLMAO) because they couldn't ruin a good PTR program.

What's the matter with them? They can dish it out but can't take it?

Eh, who cares, lol?

Here are the facts:

Rob knew all along the kinds of ads that were put out by his affiliation with Google AdSense. No amount of pretence to "fix" that will actually "fix" it, either, as the more they "fix" the more will come. Rob KNOWS that the ONLY way to remove those kinds of ads is to disassociate his affiliation from that program. Let's FACE it. Google's AdSense program is NOT geared for programs that discuss the GPT Industry. Wil knows it, too.

And, wil & co are out to RUIN the GPT Industry rather than HELP it.

One hand washes the other.

Rob could care less about GPT and KNOWS his "kangaroo" boycotting won't get rid of the GPT Industry, but, he knows he needs flunkies to keep trying. After all, as long as "they" keep that forum going, Rob can keep going to the bank.

I'd almost pity them if they weren't so pathetic.

[fight4justice]

For those who want to know, I am not posting right now as I feel I have said all that need to be said for NOW and I'm hoping for a reply from Rob but don't worry, I won't be holding my breath so carry on playing your vindictive games at all the forums.

So Rob, here are some of the things we’ve found out and asked about, what are your excuses for not answering I think what we’ve uncovered are true!!!!!

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which one are you????

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and

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The proof is always in the pudding so here are some more and enjoy

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There you are I think I got most of them here in one post for you, so if we don't get a reply we'll know that out findings and opinion of you are correct and that you are nothing but a fraud, scammer hiding behind some skirts.

Oops..........And a bit more

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Good work Halexzo and as for THIS and the replies, all I can say is that the rules changes when it suits, guess the poster did not use any of the high paying keywords in her posts so it didn’t not warrant a reply for a couple of days, I watched that post and all the time Rob Alora & Pietro were showing as being online and right in that thread but ignored it and yet isn’t this one of the reason they put BGPM on the list, for lack of response by the PO, so as I say guess it wasn’t worth bothering with as no high paying keywords would have been used in that thread but early days, they are hoping they can turn it into a profit making thread for Robby boy.

I have since been advised that what i said above about Rob Alora & Pietro being online is incorrect but read and judge for yourself how this poster/PO was treated HERE. It seems to be ok when SOME want to bring back the past and posts.


So far we have asked questions and been given some washie washie answers by Robby boy, we have proven that he is nothing but a SCAMMER but we still have a couple of posters who come in after the dirty deal is done to cover up for him.

SO IT IS TIME

For all POs to wake up, should you receive a donation request email from the scammer, sent it to your junk mail, if you receive a second one, report him for spam. Remove all links to the circus too. Offer your members a place to post their payment receipt and allow them to discuss the site and any other sites in your own forum. If you feel there is need to add a so called ‘gag rule’ to your terms then go ahead, you don’t have to pay a self proclaimed protector for that right, it is your site and the members do have a choice.

IT IS ALSO TIME

For clickers to realize that posting at WIW, GPT, BEEN PAID & GPTbrag does nothing but harm the site, if you are happy with the site or payment, post in the site’s forum if there isn’t one available a simple thank you email would be appreciated by your PO. Those forums are nothing but a place for the so called protector’s mouthpieces to gather information and report to PP - Search Engines and the IRS. You may think you are getting a downline by joining those downline builder threads at those forums but what good is a downline if those sites and their POs are then lied about at gptb and reported to PP, you end up with no earnings. You want a downline, then advertise that’s the best way to support your sites & POs. Should they be in anyway rude or cheat you, let them know and leave, what goes round comes around so if they treat you that way they won’t last long and either way reporting them does no good, they are reported in turn and end up closing and you end up with no earning as well as all other members. So I think to personally try and sort it out with the PO is the best way if it’s not resolved then leave JMO.

SO ALL CLICKERS AND POs judge for yourself.


BGPM LIVES ON AND GET PAID TO BRAG IS DEAD IMO

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[halexzo]

Judy03
As for the vindictive games. There's nothing vindictive about it. People need to be aware that Bill has released the names of people and that it could very well happen to them. Don't you see that what Bill did was vindictive? And wrong? Either you can't see it or you do see it and are condoning it.

I read all the posts there including the joke off a poll 'trulyfair' also started, and I agree with fight4justice, you all playing vindictive games.

I think braves11 said it best:

The poll is one sided, because it gives users a lack of options when trying to pick the correct response.

But of course on the other hand we should understand you all taking it to gpf as those 2 (boycott and gpf) are going hand in hand with each other, as we all seen by Rob's post.

So yeah,one hand washes the other, right? Guess those posts bring more traffic again to boycott too.

Judy
If it weren't such a big deal, why did the people at the BG forum get upset when their names were brought up?

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Those were not just the names as you well know and not for the first time either. I personally have NEVER posted any private Info and as I said before, nor will I, why attack me personally?

Judy
Like RBNLOVESPOH said, it's sites like Bg that are hurting this industry more then what it already is. And POs like Bill will destroy this industry.

No, you wrong, it is people like you and some others posting at boycott who want to push their believes and standards on everybody else.

trulyfair
The REAL NAMES of these two people were found by BGPM members halexzo and fight4justice/grandma/jm2560 while searching the Internet, probably for that exact purpose. In fact, fight4justice/grandma/jm2560 bragged about their find in this quote from the BGPM forum.

They then passed the information to Bill Gazo, the PO, who added it to this email to ALL members of the program and it has also appeared in subsequent emails.

I don't appreciciate your lies being spread all over that forum, even thou it should not suprise me as that is what you all do at boycot

You assuming (accusing) we been passing information that you have no clue about or have any proof.

I dont care what you read and twisted around to suit your purpose, you have nothing to go by, yet you post those type of lies anyway.

Just because f4j said we found the names dont mean we gave those to anyone nor did we posted those anywhere, unlike some other people did at boycott.


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braves11
Have you ever owned a site and have had to deal with Wil? I have, and he doesn't deal with people, instead of just contacting some webmaster to fix a simple problem, he'll report you. I'm sure you know this isn't the first time Wil's name has been made public. Wil may not claim to be the internet police, but he sure does site behind a key board all day and act's like he is... There are a good amount of people who wont deal with Wil over some of his slanderous reports he's made in the past.

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That post speaks for itself.

quoting bluedahlia
Oh I see what you're getting at. I'm sure Bill has proof positive that Wil or anyone else reported him to Paypal. So because Bill assumes it was Wil that reported him, then it makes it quite alright to do what he did, and you agree with him.
Nice.

What is pathetic is that you know very well that merlin even posted it himself that wil was not the only one who reported Bill to PP,that he also did so.

Or are you finally admitting that posting lies at boycottt is the norm at that circus?

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I guess you all are really disappointed that not many really give a hoot what that circus has to say or you all wouldn't have to resort going to other forums on top of boycott.

More and more do see what boycott really stands for (making money) and who the faithfull posters there are and what they are cabable of doing to anyone.

From reporting to PP, Irs, search engine owners,lying, accusing , yes posting private info and Iam not just talking about the name ,to falsifying a image of a donation receipt, and on and on it goes......

fight4justice
A word of "Warning" "beware" of joining GET PAID TO BOYCOTT THEY HAVE DOUBLE STANDARD THEY ADVERTISE PONZI, SCAMS & GET RICH SCHEMES THROUGH GOOGLE ADSENSE AND SITES THAT BREAK PP’S AUP ADVERTISED THROUGH ADMIN’S SIGNATURE - PO’s SHOULD BEWARE OF THE CIRCUS CALLED GET PAID TO BOYCOTT

[halexzo]

trulyfair
Have you forgotten that both you and fight4justice/grandma/Jacquie/jm2560/Gertrude bragged about finding the names on the Internet AFTER the email was sent out?

No, I have not forgotten, as we did let you all (general) know after you all (general) talked about it, that it was very easy to find anyones info by using google, but of course as usual you made more out of it and accused us to give that info to Bill.

You have been dragging me and f4j into this discussion about those names in the "PRIVATE" mails from bg, but you have not shown any proof, I think it is time to put your money where you mouth is and present some concrete proof of what you lying about us or stop with your accusations.
I dont care how many times you show those quotes, they do not proof anything.

trulyfair
I guess you missed this post by Wil.

And NO again, I did not miss this post either,but please tell me who is lying? Wil or merlin who said it was not only Wil who reported Bill to PP but he did also.

merlin
Just for your information, Wil was not the only individual who reported you to paypal for violation of its AUP.

Those were not just the names as you well know and not for the first time either. I personally have NEVER posted any private Info and as I said before, nor will I, why attack me personally?

Judy
Please show me where I've ever said you did it.

I said that in general, apology if you thought I meant you, I did not.

Judy
No, I'm not wrong. It is POs like Bill, who have no regard for their own Privacy Policy, who will destroy this industry. If members of a site cannot trust that the PO will NOT release their information, this industry will be history.

You all (general) talking about humiliating and embarrassing mail,please go and read all the posts that been made of Bill and others at all the forums you all (general) post, there is where you find the humiliating and embarrassing posts about him and some other members here.

And please read his privacy policy on BG,there was no violation , so that would make a few of you liars (general).

What Bill was doing is warn others about what those 2, what they are are capable of doing, dont he has the right to warn other PO's and members?

Merlin from what I believe never was a member at BG but he did used his real name when he submitted his complaint, it is posted at boyott.

And besides, those mails are supposed to be private mails and for the members of bg only , trulyfair and I dont know right of hand who else, have posted those in open forums for everybody to see

You think that is right? Morally or any any other way? If you all are so concerned about it why keep posting those mails in even more places?

Wil's Name has also been posted by himself in several places, unlike mine which I never posted myself anywhere.


Iam NOT Bill, I DID NOT send those mails with the names, nor did I ever posted them anywhere. No need to attack me and violate my privacy.

Wil - aka - FREECASHSPACE - aka Wil Xxxxxxx will inform You at PayPal and will do damage to Your operations

braves11
Wil personally has made statements in the past that have said he has reported sites without even contacting the owner of them, so from my past dealings with Wil, the above statement could very well be true

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We all know it is true, he admitted to it himself he would do so, to PP, Ebay, search engine owners ect...

Judy
I believe the legal term is Defamation of Character.

Again, please do read everything that has been said about Bill and some of us, many posts have been edited several month later, not right away, but the original IS available to several people, Pietro and admin Iam sure have those also.

Judy
You and F4J stated "we found them online". So who is the "we" in that statement.

The 'we' in that statement is clear, she was referring to her and myself as we did said so in the forum.

trulyfair
Exactly! If Bill is allowed to use these sort of tactics without any *repercussions to BGPayMail it's a sure indication that, sooner or later, other less than reputable POs will do the same thing.

Ahhh now we getting to the core of it, you all (general) are mad because most people dont give a hoot what you all say, not at gpf and not at boycott.

You want to see Bill punished and for the site to close down,no matter what the members who do stay think about it, the boycott alone was not enough, was it?

Well I can understand you being mad, as like I said before, most just dont care what you all say and most members here see what you all doing and what boycottt stands for, Money.

Truly
repercussions = members deleting their accounts/not using BGPayMail as an advertising medium.

You just keep on wishing for that, but be prepared for BG to go on just like it has after you all's (general) so called "boycott" and just like the vindictive crusade you all (general) now have taken to another forum too.

repercussions= a boomerang that backfired on you all (general) at that circus


And you all (general) doing the same thing as at that circus, anyone who defends BG or has anything positive to say is being attacked, just look at this post from gpf, and on top of it this member was banned after only 2 posts.

I dont know the reason why, but I read both of the posts and I dont see why that particular member was banned.

Of course right away they presume it was someone from BG they can't believe others dont see what they doing is nothing short of vindictive attacks against Bill and some of those members of BG.

Trivialnomore (joined and banned the same day, today)
The two people mentioned have caused major damage against innocent programs. They have at times been totally feral. the OP has behaved in the same manner in other forums, along with a number of her backers in this thread.
The opening poster, Trulyfair, maybe making it seem she/he is standing on principal but in truth she/he has dragged a nasty little fight from boycott over to here because it was flagging in interest over there
Trulyfair, open a blog for goodness sake and leave the decent people alone

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fight4justice
A word of "Warning" "beware" of joining GET PAID TO BOYCOTT THEY HAVE DOUBLE STANDARD THEY ADVERTISE PONZI, SCAMS & GET RICH SCHEMES THROUGH GOOGLE ADSENSE AND SITES THAT BREAK PP’S AUP ADVERTISED THROUGH ADMIN’S SIGNATURE - PO’s SHOULD BEWARE OF THE CIRCUS CALLED GET PAID TO BOYCOTT

This post has been edited by halexzo: Jul 12 2007, 09:31 PM

Reason for edit: spelling+changed wording

[Donna]

Thank you much, hale (and, bravo to Trivialnomore for the post of truth.).

Evidently truly and the rest have comprehension problems understanding the difference between what is publically stated and what is stated privately.

Forums, though privately owned, are public for all to read.

E-mails to members are NOT public for all to read.

I'm not going to bother going over "there" to see whom, specifically, publicized that email, but, the fact of the matter is it is THAT person whom should be blamed for making the comments made by Bill, public.

What is said in private, Merlin, is just that - PRIVATE.

Emails to members is PRIVATE, as the info sent is to MEMBERS only.

What YOU did was take hale's name and info you gathered, and post in a FORUM, which is there for ALL to see. Point or no point, as you say you made to make known, was NOT a point at all. The ONLY vindictiveness there is is your own.

All the info gathered and posted here WAS and IS gathered from that that was PUBLICIZED by the very person who made those statements public, himself - Rob. And, of course, what you've all publicized, yourselves.

So, if you can't comprehend THAT, then it wonders me how it could be possible that you can comprehend the truth as it is coming out here.

You can't, but, the majority of Internet users can. (Or, you can, but, follow the same "pretence" pattern as Rob?)

I think Rob thinks he has it made, and, feels he doesn't have to answer to anyone. But, he WILL answer to SOMEONE, if not more, in the end. Of THAT I am sure, as all Fraudsters are caught, eventually. And, the proof is in the pudding.

Rob's own words are the pudding, and, y'all's comments, spread throughout the forums is like adding a big dollop of whipped cream.

So, keep it up, folks, you are hanging yourselves well and helping to hang Rob, too.

We do enjoy eating pudding toppped with whipped cream, by the way. Great dessert or snack time treat.

[halexzo]

bluedahlia
Now they are saying, at the BGForum, that this member was banned for sticking up for BGPayMail. I mean, he/she couldn't possibly have been banned for some other infraction......right? It has to be something sinister. A conspiracy! After all the
BGers have alluded, more than once, that GPTB, GPF and Been Paid are in kohoots. Sheeeeeeesh!

Sheeeeeeeeeeesh is right, would you care to show me where it says 'we' think she/he was banned for sticking up for BG?

What I did say was:

And you all (general) doing the same thing as at that circus, anyone who defends BG or has anything positive to say is being attacked, just look at this post from gpf, and on top of it this member was banned after only 2 posts.

I dont know the reason why, but I read both of the posts and I dont see why that particular member was banned.

When you try to stir the pot, please make sure you know what you talking about.

That poster made 2 posts for 2 different sites, and as I stated, I did NOT know why she/he was banned but that I read both posts and dont see why.

But of course, in order for you to stir a little more you just go right ahead and make something up.

truly
BTW "Trivialnomore", I opened the thread here because not all GPF members read at GPTBoycott and I felt that people here should be aware of Bill's unprofessional conduct, which has recently escalated beyond belief. IMO his actions have a negative impact on the PTR "industry" as a whole.

Yeah right, and there they flew

say what you want,you opened that thread to be vindictive, boycott got a bit slow and people stopped reading the garbage so you wanted to be sure it continues.

Just look who is posting in that thread, suprise suprise, same ole same ole, well Wil is missing, but of course been banned from there or he be right with you all.

Dont you think by now everybody knows what you all think of Bill? After all, it has been going on for a long enough time.

Geeee, if after all this time you all (general) still can't get others to believe the c... you all (general) dishing out, what makes you think to continue this in another forum would?

Should it not tell you something?At the least that most dont agree with you all (general)?


The following are FACTS, not accusations or lies.

quoting robsharpe
I have site wide links available on a High Pagerank (PR6) domain related to detecting fraud online. The site is averaging 10,000 daily hits, most of which occur throughout the forums, but several thousand of these are viewing the articles throughout the site.
As of May 10, Google is showing 75,000 indexed pages (using Yahoo's domain: command). Many of these pages are extremely high content pages, of which all content is unique
The site also shows 100,000+ backlinks (using Yahoo's linkdomain: command).
Currently we have just a couple of link positions open at $100/month.
Please contact me if interested in more details

.


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75,000+ pages indexed.
$100/mo through non credit card funded PayPal.
Please contact me for details
Rob

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Hi there,
I've never sold directly from this board before, so I'll do my best to give all the information I can in this post.
Basically, on the page http://www.gptboycott.com/watch I would like to sell a maximum of two text links. I own the whole site, but am now focusing on building up this reference/comunity site's sub-pages. This site is PR5.
The homepage of the site, which I do not at this moment wish to sell further links on, http://www.gptboycott.com, isPR6, and is either position #1 or #2 on Google for its three target search terms: "paid email", "paid surveys", and "paid to surf". The Watch List page which I would like to sell text links on is directly linked to from this page, as well as every site and forum page.
I am not certain at the rate I would like to sell these links at. I would like to receive a fair price, and will not undersell myself - if the offers are too low I simply will not sell, and that's fine
The site's been up since September 2000, as well, if that's of any use. Around 10,000 visitors daily.
Please PM me any offers you may make for either one or both text link spots. I would appreciate payment via PayPal, and for a minimum duration of 3 or 6 months, although I may be tempted by good offers for short-term links.
If anyone has any questions, feel free to PM me, or reply here.
Thanks, and nice to finally get involved in the posting here instead of lurking ,
Rob

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quoting robsharpe
Webmaster and member community @ GPTBoycott.Com,PR6:

www.gptboycott.com/advertise.php for more info/info request
Rob

answering to this post here:

I'm looking for some good banner space.
If anyone has space available for a cube or banner type of spot, please post it here or PM if your looking to keep it private....
The ideal spot would be webmaster related. I would like to advertise on a busy technology or webmaster community

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Seems Rob also had another site a bit something like boycott just around the same time when the circus open up:

Avoid Internet Scams!
by robsharpe - written on 23.02.01 part of post
As webmaster and owner of Cash Center, I will try to make this opinion as impartial as I can.
( To earn more referrals. When people signup through Cash Center, they earn money, but I earn money also. Rob

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Another Forum, more google ads?more selling links/spots? ect.........

But guess the site did not work out as he hoped for like a few others he had, but Iam sure he made Money of that one too.


And lookie here:

robsharpe - written on 20.04.02
For starters, GetPaidForum is a very successful forum discussing issues in the get-paid world. Boasting over 1638 members, this could be argued (along with the GPTBoycott forum) to be the biggest and most popular forum on the Internet discussing this industry.
The two sites are intertwined closely, and they both promote each other

Well there you have it, GPF and gptB ARE going hand in hand, even from way back than.


Now Iam asking myself why Rob is so secretive about how much he makes from those adsense ads. Of course after reading the posts from others on how much they make I should not be suprised Rob being silent about that.


How much can people make with adsense? Here is an article by John Chow who listed the 8 biggest adsense earners.

Anywhere from $300,000 per month down to $10.000 per month, of course those are the biggest ones, but hey, who knows how much boycott makes?


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Rob DOES promote a site (cashinonmails) which does advertises Matrix :

CashDevelopment.WS
has been established by an overall effort, supported by highly qualified Staff who are committed to making a prosperous world-wide business via the internet. These people have extensive experience working with Multi-Level Marketing and Network Marketing Programs
Right now across the world, CashDevelopment.WS is being hailed as one of the MOST PROFITABLE and lucrative matrix sites on the net.
You'll INSTANTLY earn $4.00 for every CashDevelopment.WS member you enroll. For example, if you refer 9 members, then you will earn 9 x $4.00 = $36.00 in Fast Start Bonuses!
PLUS You'll earn additional $0.90 Up to $75.00 (excluding your matrix commissions) every 14 days for introducing new members to us. You can refer as many people as you like and you will earn $0.90 to $75.00 PLUS matrix commissions for each person every 14 days.

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gptB is set up under false pretence, NOT to teach and educate, but to make Money by asking for donations and bringing traffic in to make money from those Adsense Ads, simple JMO


If Rob wants to make Money fine, but dont try to fool the people by making them believe he is all heart and wants to teach and educate,as that is the claim he makes with his site/forum.


This thread was about how much some members made on a certain weekend by adsense, back in May 2005

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I earnt the most I've ever earnt yesterday... nearly 3x usual amount

Seems Rob received a electronic funds transfer since at least april of 2005 for his adsense

UK EFT Received as well

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And one does NOT get paid by google unless the amount reaches at least $100.

I run a similar sized forum, and find that AdSense performs well for me, I have to say. However, I have started using some CPM programs to fill up unsold inventory and found that I can make a small amount using this method, as well.
Give some CPM stuff a try, and review after two weeks or so... if you're not making much at present, what do ya have to lose?
Rob

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Not counting donations, money for sales of banners and tiltles he bestows upon those who give enough money.

Rob, are you still saying MONEY was NEVER the AIM??

This post has been edited by halexzo: Jul 12 2007, 07:02 PM

Reason for edit: forgot smilie

[admin]

TRULLYFAIR (what a croc)

Did Your Click Fraud traffic dried up, and Google AdSense is asking why?

Since You've crossed the boundaries of any decency and attempted to drag -

INNOCENT Ms Halexzo, Ms Fight4Justice, Ms Donna,and other posters, and the members of BGPayMail thru the mud
by posting Your rubbish at the hovel GPF, brought that crap from the Fraud site of GPTBoycott.coN
and she agreed with You without having any informed information, just as You, or the 'others', (will be named),
You did give me the right to post Your name in members mails, or Forums.

AND NO !!! THERE IS NO PRIVATE INFORMATION EVER POSTED, ONLY WHAT YOU, or ANYONE ELSE,
did post
and made PUBLIC INFORMATION, - SO

Take it as true, or LUMP IT! Simple.

In the SIMPLEST language that I know, just for Your level of intelligence.

The wanabe lawyer Rob, and or, the exJudge, should advice You in those matters.
but I doubt that You would even remotely understand them anyway.

My Privacy Policies, Terms, ARE written and placed at BGPayMail site, and I cannot help You,
if Your reading, or, comprehension levels are like of a FIVE year old, and attention span of a puppy.

Ignorance is not an excuse, but responsibility certainly is.

Members mails are private, not Yours to publish in any hovels, like GetPaidForum,
or the Click Fraud Ring Fourum that is GetPaidToBoycott-andBrag.coN.

All the information in those mails are ONLY what those two idiots (and OTHERS) posted themselves-

Larry Elwood - aka Merlin2003 - as he IS an informer of, and to the IRS and PayPal and others,
as no Webmaster or decent peson would want to have anything to do with him.
To be warned about him is a must.

Wil Brousard - aka FRECASHSPACE - is an idiot that did, is and will CHEAT, FALSIFY, FORGE, try to STEAL,

and do anything that lowest of the low criminals will do. His WORDS and ACTIONS are placed all over the internet, by HIMSELF,
and MAINLY at Your hovel of a site that You all are posting Your crap on - GetPaidToBoycott.coN. Simple.
Just to create traffic to the hovel. And many other reasons that are known, and will be published.

If You like to discus Your rubbish, please do so at the school of idiots cafeteria.

And You are just a windbag that needs to join a knitting club, as You will have lots of time to knit socks
to give to the rest of them to place in the approriate places.

And if You like to play in the mud and make mud cakes, squat, or, You can learn how to do it in a manner that will
invoke a dignified answer, or discussion style. But, I seriously doubt that You posses those abilities. Simple.


Just a passerby

Reason for edit: More rubbish

[halexzo]

trulyfair post 1959
Neither you nor F4J stated that it was easy to find "anyone's" information by using Google. Both of you stated that it was easy to find Wil and Merlin's information. There's a huge difference.

you would say the light is green even thou it is red.What is the difference please? At that time you all (general) talked about wil and merlin, so we responded to that, or should we have talked about the moon? Or Jupiter?

But you right away accuse us of giving that info to Bill,no matter which way you twist it,you are a liar.

Truly
Did you ever stop to think that maybe Merlin assumed that Wil had reported Bill to PayPal?

You are you finally admitting the possibilty of assuming going on at that circus over there, we said that all along

But, did you ever stop and think that he may spoke the truth in this case?Maybe he knew more then you do?

Just about everybody knows that Wil DOES report to PP, Ebay, Search Engine Owners ect......

trulyfair
Why would Bill want/need to warn other members? If he wanted to warn other POs, he could have sent a separate email.

So what if Merlin used his real name in a complaint? As fight4justice/grandma//Jacquie/jm2560/Gertrude used her real name, does that make it OK for someone to associate it with HER user name(s) in an email to all members of a PTR program?

Members do need to be warned of that circus, lot of assumptions going on there besides the accusations, the falsifying and reporting to PP, IRS ect.. and from what we seen you are a liar yourself.

So yes, members and PO's should be warned, but why is it ok for boycott to plaster names all over the place and 'supposedly' warn others but not for Bill?

And how many times do I have to tell you that 'we' had nothing to do with those names being in those mails?

Those Mails are "PRIVATE" for BG members only, yet you went and posted those in other forums.

You are the one who make them more puplic, you are the one who continues to show them to more and more people even thou they are PRIVATE Mails, so what would that make you

Trulyfair
Are you sure you've never posted your name anywhere? Would you like me to post links?

Is that a threat? As I told you before, I have your name ,date of birth ect... that was associated with your username.

Right after I told you about it or hinted, you deleted your post, but I have the info and the answer is still there.

But unlike you I dont feel the need to threaten you with it.

And the info that merlin made puplic, I have never posted myself.

truly
You really should take a good look at BGPayMail's statistics. The percentage of active members is dropping steadily, people do care and it's reflecting in the numbers.

Seems to me that a site with more then 3000+ members being active is pretty good and looks very much alive to me

trulyfair
Although the Admin/Mods did not state why the person was banned, you can bet your bottom dollar that it was a duplicate account and most likely Trivialnomore's was too. Judging by both of the posts he/she made, it doesn't appear that he/she is impressed by any of the major forums. He/she seemed to be attempting to fight for injustice caused by members of said forums.

The point I made to BD, which you seem to missed also, was that I NEVER mentioned anything about she/he being banned because she supported BG.

fight4justice
A word of "Warning" "beware" of joining GET PAID TO BOYCOTT THEY HAVE DOUBLE STANDARD THEY ADVERTISE PONZI, SCAMS & GET RICH SCHEMES THROUGH GOOGLE ADSENSE AND SITES THAT BREAK PP’S AUP ADVERTISED THROUGH ADMIN’S SIGNATURE - PO’s SHOULD BEWARE OF THE CIRCUS CALLED GET PAID TO BOYCOTT